OMG NO RAGDOLL SUPPORT?is it true or false

a_haouchar · Post by **a_haouchar** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:44 am

a user on my forums just posted this

First off, it's a great engine. Supports animated meshes, bsp's, per-pixel lighting, bump and parallax mapping, is extremely easy to use, and a number of other features that you can simply scroll up on this page to see. however, rather than walk you through this, I'll tel you about it's *missing* features.

For starters, there's no IK bones animation. This doesn't sound bad at first, unless you want certain real time animations to happen. For example, in my game, I'm planning on having it so when not jumping, the player's feet are always on the ground. This would mean like on a hill side, his right leg would be bent so that the foot would stay on the ground properly, while his left leg might be extended to reach the lower ground. However, IrrLicht has no support for this. No IK also means that ragdoll animations are impossible. Not to mention only two of the mesh formats (.x and .ms3d) support animations. Due to this I would have to entirely rewrite the mesh and animation system, which would make other engines, such as Ogre, much more appealing.

The parallax mapping also tends to have quite a few artifacts show up, such as in this screenshot (http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/9064 ... lax4ty.png), but overall it's pretty nice. Those artifacts may just be with parallax mapping in general though, so disregard that if so.

Lastly, I'm somewhat dissappointed by the shadow system. It works, but I think it could possibly be handled better. Overall, I applaud niko for including the possibilty for self-shadowing.

It's a good engine, and a great one to start with (I can understand it and I still don't have a decent knowledge of c++) but if you want to work on your game and not spend time rewriting the engine's black sheep parts, use something else. However, if you don't require all of the advanced features for today's games, it's perfect.

to me thsi looks old becuase their is IK bones animation support in irrlicht now?or is it and no ragdoll support.

xtheagonyscenex · Post by **xtheagonyscenex** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:48 pm

retard irrlicht is a graphics library not a physics library, yes it has basic collision. if you want ragdoll gets novodex, tokomak, or ODE

retard

a_haouchar · Post by **a_haouchar** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:58 am

im a retart huh? oh that post is 2 years old!

http://www.devmaster.net/engines/engine ... s.php?id=4

the user that brang it up didnt relise it was that old!

xtheagonyscenex · Post by **xtheagonyscenex** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 6:18 pm

retart

Luke · Post by **Luke** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:26 am

Well, I wouldn’t say ragdolls are impossible, they are working fine in my game

http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... c&start=15

but yes I did make some changes to the engine, which I’m trying get it accepted in to Irrlicht,
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=18782

irrlicht is a graphics library not a physics library, yes it has basic collision. if you want ragdoll gets novodex, tokomak, or ODE

No,
This is about getting the ragdoll bones from a physics engine, and moving the bones in a irrlicht mesh to match it.

Acki · Post by **Acki** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:48 am

In my IrrExtensions I added the CustomBones extension for ragdolls !!!

Have a look at my demos !!!

a_haouchar · Post by **a_haouchar** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:05 am

alrite i look into them, i hope the new animation system works out:)