I wish you all a happy day - now that we know that Omar´s god exists.omar shaaban wrote: first i prove that god exists (if u read my posts)
Have a nice day everyone, and don´t forget The 10 commandments.
I wish you all a happy day - now that we know that Omar´s god exists.omar shaaban wrote: first i prove that god exists (if u read my posts)
thank you, it will be very useful for meBeshr wrote: and for those of you who want to learn Arabic, my brother is creating a podcast for teaching Arabic, it's pretty good, give it a look
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Hahaha.etcaptor wrote:Strange discussion about god
The dark does not exist - it's just missing light Try it with some Irrlicht level
...dwmitch wrote:To answer the original post, do I think Muslims are terrorists?
In discussion I take on the infuriating side depending on who I talk to.
I have nothing against Muslims for the most part. I was very polite to the Muslim couple who tried to convert me after I changed their tire for them (they didn't have a jack, and even though he said I didn't have to I decided to change it for them since I'd have to wait around for my jack anyway). I didn't insult their religion or say anything about how they're the bastard half-brothers of the Chosen People.
I just listened, when they finished I asked if they wanted me to follow behind them (they were on a donut, there was no place open to get a tire, and I don't even trust those things for two miles), and when they said "no thank you" I told them the cheapest place to get a good tire the next morning (there were cheaper places, but their tires are crap).
However, there was also a Muslim who engaged me when he found out I was a Christian. He actually started blaming me for the Crusades. Of course, being combative by nature, I told my co-worker, loud enough for the man to hear, to check his car for explosives.
So do I believe that Muslims are terrorists? No. I'm no more suspicious of a Muslim than I am anyone else (even though I'm suspicious of everyone as whenever I get around the general public I get the feeling that I'm going to get a beating).
Would I treat you as a terrorist in person? Don't try to tie me to the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, the Catholic priest child molestation scandal, Andrea Yates, David Koresh, etc. and I won't try to tie you to the World Trade Center.
TheRLG, Jesus most likely called God "Father." While I spend most of my time in Proverbs and the Sermon on the Mount and not as much as I should in other areas, as far as I understand the Sanhiedran wanted Christ crucified for blasphemy, one of those blasphemies being that he claimed to be the Son of God.
Saturn, if you can answer where matter came from you'll be on your way to understanding the "who created God" conundrum. I learned in school that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed. Unless recent discoveries have dispelled that notion (I was in 8th grade when I learned that, so it's been about twelve years) then matter and energy had to have always existed. So how is it not logical, then, to believe that the same matter that eventually formed us and the same energy that enables our cognitive functions at one point wasn't part of a beyond sapient being? And how do we know that the change in matter and energy to the form we know now destroyed this being?
Monkeycracks, how do you explain those who grew up in homes hostile towards religion converting?
My senior year we had an exchange student from New Zealand. Her parents were atheists, her grandparents were atheists, and she was an atheist. On top of that, her host family was so fanatical in their atheism that they were constantly trying to make the churches in their town inaccessible. Every t-shirt she wore was in insult to the God of Abraham, any time we'd pass a church on the bus she'd try to throw some trash onto the property if the driver wasn't paying attention, and if she sneezed and you said "God bless you" she'd go into a long rant that ended up with her giving you the finger.
Knowing her host family and what she told me of her upbringing, what you said could be applied to her atheism. However, one day she did a complete 180. Actually requested a Bible from my pastor's daughter, started reading it, and converted. No one had tried to convert her, either. She told me that she was just curious, wanted to see what it said, then one thing led to another. Of course, her host family kicked her out and she didn't have a home to return to in New Zealand.
So how can you explain a woman growing up not only to disbelieve, but despise religion turn into a devoted follower of Christ without having had the teachings shoved down her throat?
There's more to it than upbringing, my friend.
... If he had been a world leader. Someone would have sent some missiles. See where this nonsense leads you?dwmitch wrote:However, there was also a Muslim who engaged me when he found out I was a Christian. He actually started blaming me for the Crusades. Of course, being combative by nature, I told my co-worker, loud enough for the man to hear, to check his car for explosives.
So... how is it not logical, then, to believe that the same matter that eventually formed us and the same energy that enables our cognitive functions at one point wasn't part of a beyond sapient magical invisible unicorn?dwmithc wrote:Saturn, if you can answer where matter came from you'll be on your way to understanding the "who created God" conundrum. I learned in school that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed. Unless recent discoveries have dispelled that notion (I was in 8th grade when I learned that, so it's been about twelve years) then matter and energy had to have always existed. So how is it not logical, then, to believe that the same matter that eventually formed us and the same energy that enables our cognitive functions at one point wasn't part of a beyond sapient being? And how do we know that the change in matter and energy to the form we know now destroyed this being?
I knew a devout christian. Went to school and received a doctorate in theology. Wrote several books on the evidence for jesus.So how can you explain a woman growing up not only to disbelieve, but despise religion turn into a devoted follower of Christ without having had the teachings shoved down her throat?
Agreed. I think we should continue this thread.Nodtveidt wrote:Religion is a tool. End of story.