Lubens slaps zeno60 out of existence for being a bunghole who misinterprets more than he has to
Yes, i just made that quote up.
Thank you for that.
Now you are saying his site is spam? You originally said that the thread gives you the impression of spam. I can take a look at the top section of this forum, where the spam is trapped, and the OP's post looks nothing like any of them. Looks like spam to you, not to me. What can you do about that? Nothing. I know you weren't being negative in anyway, I wasn't trying to be negative with my response. Maybe I need to start putting emotions and say "lol" a lot more, a great deal of what I say gets misconstrued as negative. Perhaps a macro to lighten the mood:
(just a note im not going to contest the OP anymore)
spam can take many forms, in addition to just the bot spam that gets trapped in the top. for example, on one forum I moderate (a rather large tech forum, over 100,000 members which is where a lot of my mentality about exploiting members comes from), we had a member from in Virginia or something sign up, post some links to some news articles about stolen electronics and discuss them, and then get angry and insult the people who replied, taking the articles into suspicion (becuase it was frankly a rather confusing topic). he got warned about his behavior by myself and some other mods, then we never saw him again, leaving us rather confused.
some months later, another user signed up, started a topic, which seemed to be going in a normal direction. all of the sudden, he started attacking one of the members, leaving us all like "o_O" because of his hostility. after some cross checking to see if he was a regular member signed up a duplicate account to attack members, i discovered he had the same IP as the guy a few months previous. later in the day, he started another topic, in another section, linking to a recent news article about stolen computers. looking at them, i realized what he was doing. every single news article he had linked were all legitimate news artilcles, which all mentioned a particular site. he was spamming that site by use of news articles that talk of it. i removed those, banned his two accounts. since then he's done the same thing I think another two times, registered a new account, linked to news articles mentioning the site, and attacking the members.
I let people slide, if theyre not going to be getting much benefit. just a few days ago someone registerd to spam a link to a flash on their site (which everyone who watched it said was rather stupid anyway). its in a members-only section of the forum (so cant be indexed by google), and all he had on his site that could benefit him was a google ad for downloading Firefox+Google Toolbar, which requires the person to actually download it to get credit for it. since none of the people who would see it would actually do that, there was no reason to bother. another member who hasnt been active for several years spams his photography site occasionally, but I leave that alone because he cant get any benefit from it (except his photos get exposure) because he doesnt have any ads at all.
there is auto spam, and there is deliberate spam. a lot of larger sites are run in the way I described above, or even stricter. thats obviously not the way this site's been chosen to be run, so I'm not going to say something about it anymore. but that's where I'm coming from, and that's why I've treated yertari the way i have. yeah, his stuff is pretty awesome, but that doesn't override my primary purpose and instinct to protect the members
Sorry for being a total ass, it's not my day today.
If you knew i wasn't negative, and you didn't mean to be negative, and you didn't mean to change the topic of the thread, then.... why?
(Will not reply any longer)
If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
I don't really understand what's the point with this thread. We also host links to 3d model libraries, graphics tools of every nature, etc. pp. And even if someone makes money from it this is ok.
If such posts will become much more annoying they will be deleted just as other spam. But don't expect that just because Irrlicht is OpenSource will will remove all links to commercial projects...
With the exception of one or two posters in this thread it seems that the quasi-communist aspect of the open source movement (if you make it on/with a computer and charge for it you will be flayed and coated in salt right before you die) is dieing down, which is refreshing.
Not every ad is spam, as long as it's targed towards the right audience. There's not a one of us here that wants to increase our bust sizes, but there are a whole crapload of programmers here needing models and music files because frankly, most of us here are just one man armies.
Programmers are rarely artists, and artists are rarely programmers. This site is full of brilliant programmers whose best artistic efforts just look like placeholders until the artist can do their thing.
In the same vein, the guys at Arteria (I'm working under the theory that it's a company, as even going the home made route I don't know many freelancers who can afford the mo-cap capabilities that the OP's sig banner boasts of) probably don't know the difference between an array and a pointer.
Basically, if we want to advance past "programmer art" this community needs companies like Arteria, and companies like Arteria need us if they want some of the luxuries of life like food, shelter, etc.
How about instead of thinking of it as a tick on a dog we start thinking more in terms of an oxpecker on an ox?
Those who call the faithful 'sheep' do not realize that they themselves are sheep. We follow one shepherd, they follow another.
@dmwitch, what about all those artists hanging around blender and other forums that put out thousands of free models per day just for fun, and want to make games but only have 100s of models but no programmers!... I think we need them too
BlindSide wrote:@dmwitch, what about all those artists hanging around blender and other forums that put out thousands of free models per day just for fun, and want to make games but only have 100s of models but no programmers!... I think we need them too
True, but there's also nothing wrong with making money off of a skill.
Those who call the faithful 'sheep' do not realize that they themselves are sheep. We follow one shepherd, they follow another.
