Forum Etiquette - Plz read before posting! (taken from Baal)
Forum Etiquette - Plz read before posting! (taken from Baal)
Here are a few pointers (stolen from the Ogre forum rules, only a selection I found most important)
Always search the forum and the Wiki before posting. You should also familiarise yourself with the API and Manual.
Summarise the topic accurately in the headline. For example "HELP!!" is not a valid headline, nor is "What is going on?". A good headline might read "alpha_reject behaving differently on GL rendersystem".
Do your homework first. Investigate your problem by experimenting with variations, looking at logs, and using your debugger. Problem solving is a learned skill, you have to DO it to become self sufficient. We're happy to help but expect some effort from you too.
Post just the pertinent details and explain what you've tried and what you've looked at already. Don't just post your entire codebase, say "it doesn't work!" and expect people to sort it out for you.
Be succinct. State the problem, the symptoms, the investigation in a structured and easy to read form. Blocks of rambling text will just get you ignored.
Post in proper English. If English isn't your first language, we'll cut you some slack, but there is no excuse for native English speakers to post contraction-filled, badly punctuated, grammatically random posts. This isn't a text message, people, and continually using contractions like 'U' and 'ur', and interspersing every second sentence with 'lol' will lead me to stop caring what you have to say in short order.
Don't 'bump' threads unless you have something more to add. If you didn't get a response the first time, it's likely that you didn't provide enough information, or people thought you hadn't done enough work of your own to justify a response. Or, they just might not have known the answer.
No political discussions, especially not in technical threads. If you really need to discuss those things, keep it inside Off-topic.
No spam or 'I like this' replies. While it might look obvious, this is necessary due to the excessive abuse of forums through spam-bots. We are often removing postings which are more or less clearly spam replies. Just don't let your posts look like a typical spam post such that it won't be deleted.[/quote]
Always search the forum and the Wiki before posting. You should also familiarise yourself with the API and Manual.
Summarise the topic accurately in the headline. For example "HELP!!" is not a valid headline, nor is "What is going on?". A good headline might read "alpha_reject behaving differently on GL rendersystem".
Do your homework first. Investigate your problem by experimenting with variations, looking at logs, and using your debugger. Problem solving is a learned skill, you have to DO it to become self sufficient. We're happy to help but expect some effort from you too.
Post just the pertinent details and explain what you've tried and what you've looked at already. Don't just post your entire codebase, say "it doesn't work!" and expect people to sort it out for you.
Be succinct. State the problem, the symptoms, the investigation in a structured and easy to read form. Blocks of rambling text will just get you ignored.
Post in proper English. If English isn't your first language, we'll cut you some slack, but there is no excuse for native English speakers to post contraction-filled, badly punctuated, grammatically random posts. This isn't a text message, people, and continually using contractions like 'U' and 'ur', and interspersing every second sentence with 'lol' will lead me to stop caring what you have to say in short order.
Don't 'bump' threads unless you have something more to add. If you didn't get a response the first time, it's likely that you didn't provide enough information, or people thought you hadn't done enough work of your own to justify a response. Or, they just might not have known the answer.
No political discussions, especially not in technical threads. If you really need to discuss those things, keep it inside Off-topic.
No spam or 'I like this' replies. While it might look obvious, this is necessary due to the excessive abuse of forums through spam-bots. We are often removing postings which are more or less clearly spam replies. Just don't let your posts look like a typical spam post such that it won't be deleted.[/quote]
Last edited by afecelis on Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
IMO, it also needs to be made clear that just because you're a veteran, you don't have the right to flame these beginner posts that are in wrong forums or ask the same question over and over again. Either read the post, roll your eyes, shut up and go to the next post, or simply ask them to post in the correct forum or tell them to use the search function. Also, if someone has already mentioned to the bad poster that they need to use the search function, their is no need for 5 other people to also remind them. All of this is the reason there are forum moderators.
I'm more annoyed and frustrated with the mean responses from the community then I am with the beginner posts.
- If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all
I'm more annoyed and frustrated with the mean responses from the community then I am with the beginner posts.
@Gfx: yup, I'm making it sticky but I made some changes in my admin options by mistake (oooops!) that dropped my rights to do that. I'm fixing it this afternoon after work.
@Spintz: thanx for your comment as well. I just found the points to be very clear about how someone should behave in this kind of forum. The other reaction should be a rule of basic politeness. But it seems like these "good manners" have started to be left behind
As a final remark; I'm discussing the posibility of cleaning the forums up a bit with Niko. So some pruning might start happening anytime soon
@Spintz: thanx for your comment as well. I just found the points to be very clear about how someone should behave in this kind of forum. The other reaction should be a rule of basic politeness. But it seems like these "good manners" have started to be left behind
As a final remark; I'm discussing the posibility of cleaning the forums up a bit with Niko. So some pruning might start happening anytime soon
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oh yes! It's just that I copy-pasted it just as I found it in the forums. Lazy me!
But I think "use proper English" is not "use proper grammar"; but: "express your ideas in an understandable way using a basic level of English". Expressions like "plz" "lol" "rofl" "brb", etc are already a part of internet's culture and jargon and everyone understands it.
But I think "use proper English" is not "use proper grammar"; but: "express your ideas in an understandable way using a basic level of English". Expressions like "plz" "lol" "rofl" "brb", etc are already a part of internet's culture and jargon and everyone understands it.
You are right!!
Thanks a lot for your suggestions(I m sorry about my english,isn t my born language).
I hope to be enough clear on my postings to learn about this cool engine .
Thanks again.
I hope to be enough clear on my postings to learn about this cool engine .
Thanks again.
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Irllicht QUESTION ONLY, NOT C++ issues
I want to add my comments:
I see too many peoples who ask question about C++ or STL only QUESTION.
Even if it seems "funny" to create GAMES (game is an entertainment by definition), creating good software game is a BIG and SERIOUS JOB.
We need to KNOW C++ PROGRAMMING before diving deep into game creation. IRRLICH is an 3D Engine which use C++.
All these people who don't know C++ and ORIENTED OBJECT PROGRAMMING language needs to do their HOMEWORK and learn C++ before.
They POLUTE the Irrlicht WEB SITE.
You are welcome on Irrlicht but please ask your C++ question on other Web or forum.... like www.codeproject.com or www.cplusplus.com, etc.
Thanks !
I see too many peoples who ask question about C++ or STL only QUESTION.
Even if it seems "funny" to create GAMES (game is an entertainment by definition), creating good software game is a BIG and SERIOUS JOB.
We need to KNOW C++ PROGRAMMING before diving deep into game creation. IRRLICH is an 3D Engine which use C++.
All these people who don't know C++ and ORIENTED OBJECT PROGRAMMING language needs to do their HOMEWORK and learn C++ before.
They POLUTE the Irrlicht WEB SITE.
You are welcome on Irrlicht but please ask your C++ question on other Web or forum.... like www.codeproject.com or www.cplusplus.com, etc.
Thanks !
Re: Irllicht QUESTION ONLY, NOT C++ issues
Well, due to Irrlicht's simplicity and popularity lots of people learn Irrlicht as a way to learn C++ and game programming. The people asking the dumb C++ questions are actually the majority of our users, so we don't mind these questions so much in this forum!
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