XBox 360

Radnussrini · Post by **Radnussrini** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:11 am

How can i comiple or link for XBox 360 its is standard version or any professional for irrlicht?????????? how can i compile or get the BBox

CuteAlien · Post by **CuteAlien** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:51 am

In short: You can't.

Consoles are closed systems and the companies producing them try to make very sure that you can't run stuff on them which is not within their control. So to do native c++ development on a xbox360 you would have to buy a developer systems, which you only can buy by agreeing to certain contracts and paying lots of money (way above 10000$ per machine).

There is XNA which allows you to program certain parts of the xbox and maybe it would be possible to create an XNA version of Irrlicht. But I haven't heard of anyone trying to do that so far.

So sorry, a lot of people think they own a console like xbox simply because they did pay money for it and have the hardware sitting in the living room. But actually you only pay for the privilege of being allowed to buy content which might run on that system within the restrictions set by the DRM.

hybrid · Post by **hybrid** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:28 am

You can program apps for the PS3, though, because it has native Linux support. However, even that system does not support hardware acceleration. So you're stuck with the software renderer of a software OpenGL emu.
But, just as CuteAlien said, you can get a commercial license for each platform in order to develop applications. Since most consoles already allow for online software there might be even cheaper versions for such minimal apps and games, don't know.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:24 pm

don't they have XNA-only homebrew dev licenses, or was that an idle threat/rumour/promise?
I turned 360 degrees and walked away anyway...

CuteAlien · Post by **CuteAlien** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:06 pm

Yes, that's what I meant - there is XNA for hobby developers. It's also not completely free for the XBOX and I don't think there's a binding to Irrlicht, but at least it allows to create games without paying an unholy amount of money.

sRc · Post by **sRc** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:49 pm

the XNA homebrew is like $99/year, and only others paying for that as well can play games built on it IIRC. in addition, it only allows managed code, and is in C#, so Irrlicht can't be built for it. original Irrlicht.net likewise, but I think IrrlichtCP was supposed to be for pure managed code IIRC, so might compile for XNA

Raziel_n2gc · Post by **Raziel_n2gc** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:20 am

If you want to devolop for the 360 you can try Toqrque.
Torque X and Torque 360 allows you to do so.
But I think you have to pay for each title.
Check it out on http://www.garagegames.com/.
There's even a Wii kit.

CuteAlien · Post by **CuteAlien** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:10 pm

You can use Torque X with XNA, Torque 360 is no tool for hobby developers.

From the website:
In order to license Torque 360 you must be an approved Xbox developer.

Morgawr · Post by **Morgawr** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:11 pm

bitplane wrote:don't they have XNA-only homebrew dev licenses, or was that an idle threat/rumour/promise?
I turned 360 degrees and walked away anyway...

OMG If you turn 360 degrees you are still facing the same direction!!!

lol sorry couldn't resist...

FuzzYspo0N · Post by **FuzzYspo0N** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:50 am

dont worry we got him on irc too :>

It wud be rad if it was open to developers but wtf wud moneysoft do that?

sio2 · Post by **sio2** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:09 pm

I've started to port Irrlicht to the XBOX 360 and Playstation3 at work in my free time. I have both devkits on my desk as I use both for the title we're working on.

Unfortunately, the chances of me being allowed to publicly release anything is pretty slim. At best I may be able to put something on PS3 DevNet - maybe.

fmx · Post by **fmx** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:23 am

sio2, thats really cool!

Please continue your attempts at porting it, because whether you're able to release them publicly or not, your effort will be appreciated (well, I do anyway

)

Please do continue whilst you've got the opportunity

qez111 · Post by **qez111** » Wed May 28, 2008 7:03 am

When browsing the Irrlicht source code, I came across the following line in IrrCompileConfig.h"

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#if defined(_IRR_XBOX_PLATFORM_)

So the first thing that came to my mind was whether Irrlicht could be made to run on XBOX, provided there is access to the XBOX sdk..
So is it possible that Irrlicht can run on Xbox, suppose I have access to XBOX sdk? If so, what kind of modifications would be required to do, if any, to the engine code?

JP · Post by JP » Wed May 28, 2008 7:33 am

It's possible if you know enough about xbox and can write a driver for it. That's what you'd basically need to do is write a new IVideoDriver implementation for use on xbox.

hybrid · Post by **hybrid** » Wed May 28, 2008 8:00 am

The XBox uses a slightly modified DX8, so you only need to compile a version with DX8 support. The rest should probably run as is, although probably no one ever tested - at least not the last few years. Also note that this means XBox, not XBox360.