In a current project, I am deciding if DX10 is the more suitable choice, based on it's extra shader functionality. Making the project Vista-only is OK.
So the first question is whether Irrlict even supports DX10?
My other question is, is it easy to have an Irrlict 'panel' in a normal Windows application, such as MFC or WinForms? In this project, I'd want 2 or 3 3D views in a dialog, with normal Windows controls and menus. Since the choice between C++/C# is not definite yet on this project, or between DX9/10, do these choices affect how difficult this would be?
DX10 support & using Irrlict in a normal Windows GUI app
Irrlicht doesn't support DX10 at the moment and i don't think there are any firm plans to support it any time soon.
DX9 basically does pretty much anything you'd want to do as well as DX10 would.
And yes you can use Irrlicht in a normal windows application, you just pass the window handle to createDeviceEx() to create Irrlicht within a pre-created window.
DX9 basically does pretty much anything you'd want to do as well as DX10 would.
And yes you can use Irrlicht in a normal windows application, you just pass the window handle to createDeviceEx() to create Irrlicht within a pre-created window.
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Great. In the app I'm looking at, we'd need two or 3 such windows in the main dialog. Would this then require 3 instances of Irrlict, and does Irrlict allow multiple instances on the same monitor? The 3 windwos would be viewing different visualisations of the same data so ideally I don't want each one isolated any more than they have to be.
As for DX10, I believe there are substantial changes, otherwise they wouldn't have to break the whole API and make it Vista only... but other than a cleaner less legacy-constrained architecture I don't know what the changes are, other than support for geometry/tessellation shaders is SM 4.0. I certainly don't need that, but it would be nice to use DX10 for the chance to learn more... however I'm not aware of any engines in the $low-free range which do support it.
As for DX10, I believe there are substantial changes, otherwise they wouldn't have to break the whole API and make it Vista only... but other than a cleaner less legacy-constrained architecture I don't know what the changes are, other than support for geometry/tessellation shaders is SM 4.0. I certainly don't need that, but it would be nice to use DX10 for the chance to learn more... however I'm not aware of any engines in the $low-free range which do support it.
3Demon (http://3Demon.net) supports a modest set of DX10 functionality, and is basically built upon Irrlicht. The thing is, and you can talk to spintz, it is a b**** to make a generic engine over top of DX10 that fits the Irrlicht paradigm.d000hg wrote:Great. In the app I'm looking at, we'd need two or 3 such windows in the main dialog. Would this then require 3 instances of Irrlict, and does Irrlict allow multiple instances on the same monitor? The 3 windwos would be viewing different visualisations of the same data so ideally I don't want each one isolated any more than they have to be.
As for DX10, I believe there are substantial changes, otherwise they wouldn't have to break the whole API and make it Vista only... but other than a cleaner less legacy-constrained architecture I don't know what the changes are, other than support for geometry/tessellation shaders is SM 4.0. I certainly don't need that, but it would be nice to use DX10 for the chance to learn more... however I'm not aware of any engines in the $low-free range which do support it.
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Re: DX10 support & using Irrlict in a normal Windows GUI
Irrlicht has no DX10 support, though you may find its highly modified sibling Demon3D by Spintz has DX10 support as I've ran several tests on that codebase.d000hg wrote:In a current project, I am deciding if DX10 is the more suitable choice, based on it's extra shader functionality. Making the project Vista-only is OK.
So the first question is whether Irrlict even supports DX10?
You may have to relax the DX10 requirement if you want to write code using the Irrlicht API.
Personally (and this is my very personal opinion) if you really need it to be DX10, you may have to look at other DX10 rendering engines out there. Send me a PM if you need more info about that.
Sounds simple, thanks.hybrid wrote:You can create the three windows in your app (using the windows API or other things) and pass the pointer to the windows as a parameter to endScene(). This will render the scene into that window. This allows to render the same scene in multiple views and on multiple screens.