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kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:03 pm

Its Fedora 14

Btw, I have little question: how Irrlicht work on FreeBSD? Did anyone tested?

Radikalizm · Post by **Radikalizm** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:04 pm

Never tried it, but I can't image it being much different than running it on linux

ent1ty · Post by **ent1ty** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:53 pm

Nice kazymjir, i currently have Ubuntu 10.10 on virtual box

I had linux as primary os long time ago too, but then i bought this notebook with windows 7 preinstalled, and i can't really complain. I have ubuntu just to test how do my irrlicht apps run on linux. Also, i like messing with compiz fusion and other stuff

My desktop:

Radikalizm · Post by **Radikalizm** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:01 pm

ent1ty wrote:Nice kazymjir, i currently have Ubuntu 10.10 on virtual box I had linux as primary os long time ago too, but then i bought this notebook with windows 7 preinstalled, and i can't really complain. I have ubuntu just to test how do my irrlicht apps run on linux. Also, i like messing with compiz fusion and other stuff

My desktop:

Last time I tried running compiz inside a virtual machine it gave me pretty crappy results (although this was a couple of years ago)

Was very impressed by it when I ran it on my actual machine however

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:41 pm

Radikalizm wrote:Never tried it, but I can't image it being much different than running it on linux

BSD doesn't have joystick support, other than that I hear it works okay.

And because I like to boast, here's my extraordinary large desktop

http://i.imgur.com/sKtTz.jpg

Radikalizm · Post by **Radikalizm** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:06 pm

bitplane wrote:
Radikalizm wrote:Never tried it, but I can't image it being much different than running it on linux
BSD doesn't have joystick support, other than that I hear it works okay.

And because I like to boast, here's my extraordinary large desktop

http://i.imgur.com/sKtTz.jpg

three 1920x1080 monitors next to eachother, or just one extraordinary large monitor? ^^

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:27 pm

I tried to install yesterday night PC-BSD (at first I wanted to install pure FreeBSD, but I lost somewhere cd), but it have only graphical installation, and my Logitech mouse needs special care with HAL to make it working

I am too lazy to configure this

So I am still on Fedora. It's good OS and not doing so big mess in /etc/ like Ubuntu or other Ubuntu-based systems (like Mint).
Only I can do mess in these files

About compiz, i don't like effects on desktops.
For me it's too distracting, and I always having headache after 30 minutes of using any compiz desktop

Good old gnome or fluxbox is the best for me, without any effects.

About large desktops, multi monitor configurations are awesome!
I have two 1440x900 monitors, on main monitor I have IDE where I am writing code, at secondary monitor is usually documentation or Firefox, if developing web stuff.
Today monitors are very cheap, I recommend to buy second one. It's great + to productivity

Radikalizm · Post by **Radikalizm** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:31 pm

I don't know why, but I've always preferred KDE over all the other window managers

And I got rid of compiz pretty quickly for the same reasons, just way too distracting

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:55 pm

For me KDE is too much expanded (not sure I used correct work - my English is very poor), I like minimalism like Fluxbox or Gnome.
But it's individual case, all my friends prefer KDE, only I stay with Gnome

About Fedora, I see lot of changes. Last fedora I used was 8, now I have 14.
Finally, my 5.1 surround system work perfectly without any additional configuration, what is nice surprise, because it never want working correctly on any other OS (including Ubuntu and Mint)

Btw, you know Deep Purple?
Today I played some music on YouTube (due to formatted disk and no music

) and I found Smoke on the Water... with DIO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WX_4FNoto4
never heard it before

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:24 pm

Radikalizm wrote:three 1920x1080 monitors next to eachother, or just one extraordinary large monitor? ^^

Yeah three monitors, AMD support EyeFinity on Linux now so they're all part of the same surface.

I actually like Compiz, not only does it look flashy (I even like the wobbly windows) but the desktop cube/cylinder gives me the feel of knowing where my apps are in a 3D space.

Maybe one day I'll mature into one of those serious people who demand a tiling window manager, but right now I'm liking the flashy effects!

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:47 pm

Ho ho, three monitors, it must be awesome!
Unfortunately, I have no free space on my desk to place three monitors, so I can have only two for now

Hmmm, why are you using AMD?
AMD suck on GNU/Linux, same like on Windows

They have better specifications, like more shader units, but they are bot beaten in benchmarks with nVidia cards with weaker specifications.
nVidia have better software engineers to code drivers

Btw, AMD EyeFinity is really great solution for multi-monitor workstations.
Not all people have free slots for another graphics cards on mainboard.
The one thing they made good

EDIT:
Which IDE you can recommend for C/C++ on GNU/Linux?
I am using NetBeans for PHP, which really kick ass other commercial IDEs, it's really great, but it have some problems with C/C++.
In Irrlicht, we're accessing many objects through references. While auto-completing code works great on Irrlicht structs and types, auto-completing totally sucks on references. Also, NetBeans coloring code with references as errors, because it not knows what is beyond reference.
It's very annoying when NetBeans says half of your code is bad and marking all in red color

Debugger also is kinda poor.

Heard about Code::Blocks, but it isn't look too much expanded.
I googled some Net, and many people favor other IDEs.

Which one is best for you, Irrlicht devs?

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:49 pm

kazymjir wrote: Heard about Code::Blocks, but it isn't look too much expanded.
I googled some Net, and many people favor other IDEs.

My favourite IDE so far is Code::Blocks(tough I only used Code::Blocks and MSVS/MSVC 2005/2008/2010 ), because it is easy to set up with libraries like irrlicht, and it works great both on windows and ubuntu.
Also its much easier(at least for me) to create project templates than with VC++.
Also it has quite good auto code completion and the installer is only ~80mb(with compiler).

ent1ty · Post by **ent1ty** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:52 pm

Code::Blocks is really great, unless the auto completion breaks down. And it does that often, and i don't know how to fix it

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:01 pm

Mostly gedit

I use code::blocks myself, it's pretty good. Nice if you install under Wine too, you can test Windows/Linux projects and even run Irrlicht D3D stuff under Wine without needing a cross compiler. The sheer laziness of it is wonderful!

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:27 pm

Hmm, if Code::Blocks works both on GNU/Linux and Windows it's really nice when it coming to port project, as Bitplane said.
Ok, you all recommended Code::Blocks, so I have no choice

Will try it when I finish my secret project

bitplane wrote:Mostly gedit

VIM is great for doing corrections in code, or writing little projects that contains in not more than 4-5 files. (but phpMyAdmin devs is writing whole project in VIM

)
Keyboard shortcuts and commands are really great, making productivity really bigger and faster.
Also, there is ability to split window and allow to work on more than one file simultaneously.
And it's really, really easy to use!
Myth that VIM is really hard is made by evil followers of Church of Emacs,
making jokes like "How to generate a random string ? Put a fresh student in front of vi and tell him to quit.".
VIM have built in tutorial, which teach you everything about VIM.
Also, you can customize VIM a lot, like custom colors, indents, shortcuts, etc.
Kazymjir recommends VIM!

EDIT:

ent1ty wrote:The beer looks very good ... almost as good as Mord und Totschlag

Edit: and yes, i really do have a brewery about 200 metres from school

(from Irrlicht Mascot thread, posting here, do not want making offtopic

)
Nice!!
They choose very good location, must have great incomes