Best language for a build automation system?

3DModelerMan · Post by **3DModelerMan** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:03 am

What's the best language for a build automations system? One that has good file system support, and can run command line arguments, and run other applications? Is perl good for that? Or should I be looking for something different? Like an extended batch file type of thing?

pippy3 · Post by **pippy3** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:26 am

Cmake.

3DModelerMan · Post by **3DModelerMan** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:50 am

Cmake? I thought that only generated solution/project files for different IDEs.
I'm thinking for content packaging, file compression, and format converters. What language to write the content pipeline part of the build process with.

CuteAlien · Post by **CuteAlien** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:15 am

I'm using a mixture of shell-scripts and Python.

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:33 pm

Depends on your OS. But if you have *nix on mind, I think the best option is CuteAlien solution for his system.

CuteAlien · Post by **CuteAlien** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:34 pm

I use the same on Windows with the help of Cygwin and/or MinGW (depending on what I do). Btw., Perl would also be good if you are more comfortable with that. It's just that Python has been replacing Perl more and more over the last view years, but they are both suited very well for such a task.

3DModelerMan · Post by **3DModelerMan** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:19 pm

I think I'll use perl. It's also really useful on the web, so I can learn another valuable skill at the same time. And I'm using windows, but I'm going to be getting someone's old PC soon and I'm going to strip it down, install Ubuntu and turn it into a private server. So the build system needs to be cross-platform.

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:08 pm

Definitely, NOT UBUNTU.
UBUNTU IS NOT OS FOR SERVER.
Ubuntu is system created for desktops, for newbies who come from Windows. It have drivers, flash, java and other stuff.
It's NOT system for server. Desktop only.

If you want GNU/Linux and you are familiar with Ubuntu, I can recommend you Debian.
I had Debian on most of servers I worked on and had no troubles with them.

pippy3 · Post by **pippy3** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:42 pm

kazymjir wrote:Definitely, NOT UBUNTU.
UBUNTU IS NOT OS FOR SERVER.
Ubuntu is system created for desktops, for newbies who come from Windows. It have drivers, flash, java and other stuff.
It's NOT system for server. Desktop only.

If you want GNU/Linux and you are familiar with Ubuntu, I can recommend you Debian.
I had Debian on most of servers I worked on and had no troubles with them.

Ubuntu Server Edition?

All it is is Ubuntu Desktop without Gnome. It's not difficult to remove gnome anyway, and with apt-get it's a breeze to customize it.

I take it you've had a bad experience with Ubuntu

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:12 pm

Pippy3, I know about "Server Edition".
But what is sense do server os from desktop os?
It's something kinda trying to make Porsche from tractor.
Isn't better solution to buy Porsche?

And you're not right with that I had bad experience with Ubuntu.
Ubuntu was my second OS, I used it for almost half year, and next OS was based on Ubuntu (Linux Mint).
It's nice OS, but for desktop and people, who need OS only for day-to-day stuff, not server.

Debian is good OS for server. Why?
It's coming without any unnecessary stuff, which Ubuntu have.
Ubuntu also like to do some mess in dependencies. Try to remove X window system, and dependencies will remove half of your system.

I don't want be surly, but I can take you had bad experience with other systems that not have fancy GUI-auto-configurations.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:44 pm

Ubuntu 9.04 came on my SheevaPlug and cost only 120MB of space. It's also running on 4% of all web servers out there including archive.org.

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:37 am

Hey Pippy3,
sorry for my last post.
I am usually very calm person and it's hard to make me angry, but one person especially have ability in making me angry (my mother), and when she make me angry, I am being angry and not nice for all people around me,
so sorry for my last not too nice post

Ubuntu is somewhat Debian with X, gnome, applications, codecs and GUI-configuration.
Debian is "pure", without all this stuff, so you don't need to remove anything.
You just have system ready to install server apps and configuration.

pippy3 · Post by **pippy3** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:26 am

kazymjir wrote:Hey Pippy3,
sorry for my last post.
I am usually very calm person and it's hard to make me angry, but one person especially have ability in making me angry (my mother), and when she make me angry, I am being angry and not nice for all people around me,
so sorry for my last not too nice post

Ubuntu is somewhat Debian with X, gnome, applications, codecs and GUI-configuration.
Debian is "pure", without all this stuff, so you don't need to remove anything.
You just have system ready to install server apps and configuration.

No problem bro, I have a thing for winding people up on the internet.

You have a good point about Ubuntu being bloated, it's a 600meg default install. Linux Mint is great for getting only the stuff you want to optimize your linux install.

loki1985 · Post by **loki1985** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:50 am

@kazymjir: you know ubuntu is pretty much directly derived from debian? so all in all, they are very similar to each other.

kazymjir · Post by **kazymjir** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:03 am

Loki1985, you seem not reading all my posts.
I am talking about that you said all the time.

Ubuntu is somewhat Debian with X, gnome, applications, codecs and GUI-configuration.
Debian is "pure", without all this stuff, so you don't need to remove anything.
You just have system ready to install server apps and configuration.