Combining 2 wrappers into 1

hendu · Post by **hendu** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:17 am

Radikalizm wrote:
wahagn wrote:OK, but what tells you I want to skip the learning part??
So your plan is to build your big project at the same time you're learning the fundamentals, and you expect to write perfectly clean and stable code, suited for commercial distribution?

Heh, implying commercial code is either clean or stable

Bethesda among others would disagree with you.

Radikalizm · Post by **Radikalizm** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:34 am

Clean and stable code is like working with limits, it's impossible to actually get there but you try to get as close as possible

But I suppose you get my point in my previous post

Btw, just because certain companies make a mess out of their code doesn't mean messy and unstable code is an industry standard

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:55 pm

serengeor wrote:
You could start by proving yourself and community that you can actually do something and code something on your own. If you need a gui, write one on yourself or find some implementation and make it work with your code, its not going to be easy but it's going to be worth it in the end.

Hey, I did it. And actually it wasn't diffcult at all.

How I did it:

1. I copied some of the dll's ( every dll exept the ones for physics),

I copied some .bi header files ( all .bi files exept the ones for physics)

and the IrrlichtWrapper_source folder from the irrlicht FB wrapper
and placed all those files in the examples_10g folder of Ninfa 3d

2. Then I copied all the files in the media folder from the Irrlicht FB Wrapper to Ninfa 3d's media map

3. I compiled the same GUI example of the FB Irrlicht Wrapper in Ninfa 3d and ... I succeeded

So now I am able to use the GUI functions of the irrlicht FB Wrapper in Ninfa 3d plus I can also use orther Irrlicht FB Wrapper functions if I like (so
I can handle meshes Ninfa 3D style and implent and use Camera's Irrlicht FB Wrapper style, altough I didn't test this kind of stuff yet)

@Serengeor: Does this mean that I have proven myself to the community??

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:00 pm

wahagn wrote:
serengeor wrote: @Serengeor: Does this mean that I have proven myself to the community??

Not yet, If you post a working demo of those wrappers combined and working together than we'll see

Nice to see your trying to work on your own

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:29 pm

Ok, I uploaded it at megauploud so you and others can test it

BTW: The only examples that shows that the FB Wrapper is intergrated is GUI.bas

BTW2 Oh and, I know I didn't implent the code myself like you asked me but I wanted GUI functions in Ninfa 3D and I got it

Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ATEE0LE0

Edit: Oh and ofcourse you have to install FreeBASIC and a FreeBASIC IDE
to view the code of these .bas and .bi files:
http://www.freebasic.net/index.php/download <- FB
http://fbide.freebasic.net/ <- FB IDE

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:40 pm

No testers?

Maybe because of the fact that you have to download the FB Compiler and IDE to view the source??

Btw: Ofcourse you have to download these things to view the source but you don't need to download these things it if you just want to test some example Ninfa 3D .exe 's and offcousre the .exe of the GUI example I inetergrated from the Irrlicht FB Wrapper into Ninfa 3D

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:45 pm

wahagn wrote:No testers?

Maybe because of the fact that you have to download the FB Compiler and IDE to view the source??

Btw: Ofcourse you have to download these things to view the source but you don't need to download these things it if you just want to test some example Ninfa 3D .exe 's and offcousre the .exe of the GUI example I inetergrated from the Irrlicht FB Wrapper into Ninfa 3D

I guess most of people here code in c++

And I don't think this would work under linux out of the box, would it?

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:06 pm

serengeor wrote:
I guess most of people here code in c++

Yes, but they could test the .exe and they can open the .bas file (= FB sourcefile) with Word if they want to

BTW: There are also other .exe files in that package I uploaded wich show Ninfa 3D ( + Newton ) features. Like a little car driving sim, a nice fire sim (particles) , a clouds sim and more ( and offcourse my inetrgrated GUI example : GUI.bas -> GUI.exe)

serengeor wrote: And I don't think this would work under linux out of the box, would it?

FreeBASIC is cross platform so you can install and run it in linux:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=henTW2vST3I

Oh and once again the link to the download of Ninfa 3D mixed with Irrlicht FB Wrapper:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ATEE0LE0

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:22 pm

Oh, I taugt Ninfa3D was windows only.

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:57 pm

serengeor wrote:Oh, I taugt Ninfa3D was windows only.

I don't think so because it uses Irrlicht, Newton and OpenAL and none of those iare windows only (.. I think)

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:13 am

wahagn wrote:
serengeor wrote:Oh, I taugt Ninfa3D was windows only.

I don't think so because it uses Irrlicht, Newton and OpenAL and none of those iare windows only (.. I think)

I think I saw some freebasic wrapper using directx for rendering, tough I don't really remember now nevermind.

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:37 am

I have realised that this doesn't work like I wanted, because I get a lot
of errors if I include both .bi(=FB Header file) files in a .bas(= FB source file) file. so now I think I have to combine both header files into one big header file ... I will reply again when I'm finished doing this

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:47 am

wahagn wrote:I have realised that this doesn't work like I wanted, because I get a lot
of errors if I include both .bi(=FB Header file) files in a .bas(= FB source file) file. so now I think I have to combine both header files into one big header file ... I will reply again when I'm finished doing this

Heh, I actually taught something like this would happen, thats why I asked for working sample.

Its not going to be easy I think as both libs need access to device, you should probably be better implementing gui into other wrapper on your own by looking how its done in the other one and adapting it to the first one.

Come to the darkside(c++) and use all the functionality irrlicht has !

wahagn · Post by **wahagn** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:41 am

I have tried to intergrate GUI into Ninfa 3D but now I'm stuck cause I get like
10 errors, here they are:

http://img7.imageshack.us/f/errorsz.png/

I think this means that Ninfa 3d doesn't know what these things are

For the code in a word file ( the red parts are the code I added to the original) :

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1C88VEHU

serengeor wrote:
Come to the darkside(c++) and use all the functionality irrlicht has !

No, thanx I'm doing fine in programming heaven...

serengeor · Post by **serengeor** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:46 am

Well I can't help you with FB code, I haven't ever written anything in FB, tough I think its similar to Visual Basic?

You should try to contact one of the authors of the wrappers and ask him how you should go about this.