another fantastic free global illumination renderer!

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 2:18 am

http://www.toxicengine.org/

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:16 am

and it's sister site, toxicx, python script to export your stuff from blender!

http://www.toxicx.toxicengine.org/home.php

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:28 am

wow, afecelis you must have a nose of a bloodhound! You keep finding all this great software.

ondrew · Post by **ondrew** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:20 am

here goes another one:
http://lucille.sourceforge.net/

but as far as I know, neither of them can be used to generate lightmaps for irrlicht
http://www.toxicengine.org/forums/viewt ... ap&start=0

or do you know how? that would be so cool.

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:43 pm

hehehe

I'm a rendererers' buff!

well, toxic grabbed my attention since it can be used with blender and wings3d whereas lucille is a renderman renderer; since many ppl here use blender I thought it would come in handy (at least for static rendered images, the quality is amazing!) About lightmaps, it would be a similar case to Yafray; so far no one has been able to pull lightmaps out of blender, but they produce such beautiful images!!!!!!!!.... I can only drool of amazement. Not even it top-notch pro tools galleries do you see such quality, and I always ask myself :" how do these guys achieve it with a free tool?"

anyway, the more tools, the better chance that some of our uber programmers expert in file formats might do something with it

toxic is xml based, like yafray. Only that the file structure is a bit different.

have fun guys!

Saku · Post by **Saku** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:47 pm

Just a "funny" little thing i noticed - The have actually rendered the same model in both engines, look:
http://www.toxicengine.org/viewimage.ph ... ponza2.png
http://lucille.sourceforge.net/gallery/ ... a8bit2.jpg

They use diffrent light positions and point of view, but still..!

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:27 pm

now I know who the real bloodhound is!!!

Interesting you found that, saku.

Truth is, that patio is a classic exercise gor global illumination rendering; even final render has got it. (couldn't find the link).

but it's great you pointed it out

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:45 pm

ahhhhh! found one!
http://www.geocities.com/chriswurzer/SPONZA_Atrium.jpg

as a matte rof fact, I just found a whole forum dedicated to rendering the sponza courtyard in different renderers!
http://hdri.cgtechniques.com/~sibenik2/
http://hdri.cgtechniques.com/~sponza/sh ... e=4&in=204

hehehehe, it must be a pretty complex yard....

Saku · Post by **Saku** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:06 pm

You truly are a bloodhound!
I've been searching for that picture too and you still found it before me!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:10 pm

it would be great if someone could get blender to work to get lightmaps out since it works on linux too

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:23 pm

it's planned for future releases of blender...but dunno when

vermeer · Post by **vermeer** » Tue May 17, 2005 8:30 am

well, the fact is...it's quite polemic one...

There are some older veterans not very fond of games art orientation and more film/video orientation.Nothing wrong with that...but certainly wont attract the huge game art comunity.

But I suspect those are which speak more in the forums, but not necesarily the ones deciding and coding...

So, all in all, I have hopes on multitexturing using several UV channels....*could* come....

But smooth groups are also pending..u can only asign smooth or solid to whole mesh, and that's not good either. Workaround is split in the edges u want as hard, but...

yet though, Blender can be used, just not for everything in games... yet.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:54 am

GFXstyLER wrote:it would be great if someone could get blender to work to get lightmaps out since it works on linux too

I am doing this now, using OCTTools

Blender->OctTools->FSRad-->octfile-->octfile reader-->irrlicht

works like a charm, but alas, I think FSRad is windows only though...

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Wed May 18, 2005 4:05 am

nice!

I never got octtools to work for me. That would be blender's truly first way of producing lightmaps!

kudos!

ps. A tutorial would be interesting as well

vermeer · Post by **vermeer** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:25 pm

"works like a charm, but alas, I think FSRad is windows only though... "

Nope, Murphy made a working version to work well under Wine.

euh, which remembers me I gotta tell something to the comunity..

in other thread

afe, mate.

It did worked for me like charm both oct and mim...

So, I already made blender produce lightmaped level for irrlicht

Now, to the other thread.