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Post by vermeer »

There was a full game done very early in irrlicht history, done even adding some convenient modification to the engine. Was some cool game, done in record time. Just we haven't spoke of it for long.

There's loads of good full working work (IE Murphy's MIM, oct and Mohaps utilities and loaders)

I am afraid perhaps I provoked indirectly this, asking to retire the starship from Blaze...you can't even blame those who stop their projects. This is all free stuff, often done by ppl with little kids to care about, or other heavy life duties.

yet so, lots of projects have done, so? ...One problem could be the things people think are... I never hoped to do or see done the latest Unreal with Irrlicht, but till recently, free engines was a non allowed luxury...Even so, imho Irrlicht is really good and powerful to do anything.

I know of certain engine, pretty unknown, extremly good and fast, and advanced, and not a single try of doing something with it...Why? people just doesn't know it...So things are. But that means nothing. Eventually somebody will pick it for a good game. With irrlicht this already happened.
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Post by vermeer »

" I mean honestly I'm bored as hell here. "

Do your own game. In your own. That's a good way to not get bored.

I already made a player model, and helped a lot here...
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Post by dawasw »

I agree with vermeer & omaremad and the rest who spoke wise advices for you Midnight. I understand that you like to be in the center of ppl's attention. But please stop being controvensional for most of people on this forum.

Maybe some day you will start to say that irrlicht is a bad engine for you, because it have such developers who are making projects, which doesn't suit you. It is your own problem that you don't like tertris or any games from the past. I understand that. But please don't be such a bas***d for people who really like classics. And show some re5pect for DooM, because in 2020 people will call (for example) ur lovely DooM 3 a 'CLASSIC' game.

Hmm i think it is best to be quiet when someone is showing project you don't like. Comment only when you like something what other people are showing. People lost their faith when you will say negative things about their work.
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Post by Quall »

Most people I see here that have projects, including myself, are new to programming and 3d design entirely. What better place to start than a free, moderately easy, functional, open source, gfx engine?

You can't expect new programmers to break out these hidden magical skills that don't exist. We actually have to learn techniques and how to code. For most people, developing these clones is a learning experience that is exercised on their own time, it is not an obligation. People aren't making you buy these games, you don't have to download them, and you certainly don't have to play them. You want a polished game? Spend 50 bucks and buy one that teams of devs, with years of experience, have worked on for several years on large budgets.

Where's your game? You made some editors, show us what you plan on doing with it? If it is so easy, where is your new and exciting game?
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Post by Midnight »

BLAH..

All you guys are like hooray for nothingness..

I'm sorry not everyone is sugar coated like you people.

And I won't keep my mouth shut when I don't like something either if it wasn't for demand there would be nothing the world is built upon it.

this thread gave me something to do to break up the monotony of coding the new changes to guice and after that I WILL be putting out a game.

I just want to see more with all these people there are enough skills and jobs to go around that things could be created faster then they are now.

If you don't like me being the center of attention then why do you show so much interest in me? honestly I don't care my life doesn't revolve around popularity like some of you pop culture weirdo's
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Post by Midnight »

besides I have to rebuild the engine to do my games.

maybe my goal is to light a fire under some of your asses so I don't have to do so much damn work myself.

Don't you people ever get bored of coding and just feel like bullshitting?

and why is everyone so afraid of cuss words anyways.

hell bitch ass poop bastard whore... grow up they are just harmless words and to take offense from someone you have never and will never meet is like roasting imaginary hotdogs and pretending to eat them but it's really LSD sprinkled on pancakes and then you wake up having pissed your pants.

You with me homes? 8)
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HNNNNGGGGHHHHH... *plop*
ahh thats better.

i poop in your worthless thread

oops i almost posted that out loud, where are my manners?
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Post by Spintz »

LIKE THIS!!!!

PERFECT!!

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Post by afecelis »

Loooooooool!!
lsd on pancakes....wow!

best thing of all is that this thread has got nothing to do with a "real" project announcement.

I'm moving it to "offtopic" to try to keep things clean a bit.You may keep on cursing there.

about cursing, well yes, those words are harmless named at the air; i.e. when you hurt yourself and say poop! or fck! or whatever. It's another story if you start attacking yourselves with some deep and heavy offensive stuff.

I think Midnight's intention after all is to slap us all in the face and try to make us react into creating some real game stuff; which I find ok.

But remember not all of us have the time nor the knowledge to do it so the ones who got the skills and the spare time go on and start showing up some spiffy stuff or you'll get your asses whiplashed!!! :wink:
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Post by luckymutt »

I'm moving it to "offtopic" to try to keep things clean a bit.You may keep on cursing there.
Rock on!
gently caress FUCKY gently caress

ok, now that that is off my chest...
So, Midnight, I agree with and appreciate what you have to say, but...
where is your Magnum Opus?
But yes, I agree - I would love to see more work put out with this engine, and not just so I can peak at the source code for my own use...I really dig this engine and would love to see SOMETHING done with it.

As for my Magnum Opus...
well I'm stuggling along with it.
I'm going to guess that most everyone one here is not working with Irrlicht full-time and professionally.
Some (many?) here are probably students (hey its summer! you students get your ass to work....I wanna see the framework for MY game before school is back in session!)
The rest of us probably have full time jobs. Some of us are probably lucky enough in that our full-time gig is at least computer related.
I do architectural visualization for a small CG firm. Here it is on a Sunday morning, and instead of doing my own thing, I have a Monday deadline that I'll be spending all day on.

Point of all of this being, as many different roles there are to fill to even put a half decent game together, compounded with work and family obligations and assuming so far that each project has been done by one or two people, its a wonder there's been as much progress as there has been.

This is why these forums are so great.
If it was just Irrlicht and no community, honestly, how many of you would still be doing anything with it?

@Midnight since you started this, my curiosity is peaked...what are you working on? any screen shots? and how can anyone else help or contribute?


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Post by vermeer »

Indeed, I do those "real games" at work, been in several game companies already, and trust me Midnight, is not that fun....I don't care none of the ugly words and all. If I posted in this thread is as I respect this comunity. I mean, is not about you, but the matter rised.

In fact, with free engines, while usually underpowered (but things like Ogre and Irrlicht are not that underpowered at all ) you have a freedom you never more have when you are working with a salary.
So, engines like this give the posibility of making stuff with no constraints, in theme, treatment, story, or... *cough* ...time.

I don't feel the hurry anymore to demonstrate things when making games, or to aim for ube technology graphics. But instead, freedom of movement and fun.

Sumarizing, I actually never care for insults or whatever, nor bored persons... I am speaking about the subject, a line of thought in indy games...good as any other.

Also, the quality and speed of reaction and production, is...money. Most ppl here seem to be students or ppl like me with quite an stressing job...no need more stress after work. (besides much more crowded game engine comunities produced much less games in much more time, with a lot less quality...So, I'm surprised...)
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Post by vermeer »

oops

cross posting...

luckymutt made a similar point...

I've been in what is now...3 game companies...well, four now(I'm in one now)...And I *love* irrlicht comunity to be relaxed.

Other than that, I'd like to see more games made in Irrlicht, but I also would like to see a BMW in my door and having the keys for it, of course ;D
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Post by MikeR »

When Adobe killed Atmosphere, (it was the best 3d app ever made) I went looking for a new game engine for the group I work with. I found Irrlicht. Problem #1 was, it is a graphics engine, and I knew No C++. As I looked around the net, I kept comming back to Irrlicht becouse of it's power, price, and community. I am now learning C++ just so that I can put my own game engine together.(slowly, I work 18 hours a day, 6 days a week at my day job) My work is slow, and usually painful. (nothing Ever works right the first 50 or 60 trys) There is no way I'm going to have anything out in short time, and when I do, there will probably already be a bunch of examples out there.
Midnight, you are working on GUICE. Not a bad little app. I'd like to see it finished.
There is no need to bash anyone here. Irrlicht has a great community. Niko is doing a great job with Irrlicht, but remember, it isn't even at version 1 yet.
Ok, so that probably makes no since at all, but it's said.
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Post by Midnight »

Whooo hooo God Damn this is FUN! :D :lol: 8)

Yeah I suppose this didn't belong in project annoucments and damn do you know how to read someone afecelis.

I love this forum.

As for my magnum opus well..

For starters I've warmed up with Guice and I've come to a turning point.

MY Magnum Opus will most likly be built on my own engine in time.

However I do have plans for the mean time as I'm not good enough for my own engine just yet but considering how far I have come in such a short time and to prove all that I say is rock solid I have a present for you all.

But first I have a bit of work to do.

Catch you on the flip side.
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