? Ok, I admit, sometimes I get too defensive of Ogre (and Newton, for that matter) 
. You all didn't take it personally, did you 
? I dunno, I seem love arguing on the Irrlicht forums when it has to do with physics engines or graphics engines. Actually, I do that on the Ogre forums, too. Good thing I'm a bit more contained there, and there aren't enough threads. But, then, most of the Ogre'ers are on my side. Though I do usually take it a bit far 
I'm not changing my name on purpose. If you search agi_shi on the Ogre forums, you'll notice that was my name there, too. Now, try using a wiki with a name with an underscore. Tried it? Given that nullsquared and null are my second choices, that's what I became. Look at the end of this thread: http://www.ogre3d.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=37918
@ JP: What video card do you have? I can understand that it might seem heavy, it's just that it's never taken too many frames when I used it. Even on an integrated chip
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