Irrlicht Engine

that looks very cool

Maybe you misinterpreted what i meant, x-ray. It was nothing against you or your design (which i had not seen yet).

I thought i would throw a design in (i just used yours as a template),
i just tried a different header and a darker background for contrast

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/714/ir ... npage2.jpg

Alls I have to say is it's 2009 not 1995 and it's time the website reflected that. People judge a book by it's cover, unfortunitly.. and in this case Irrlicht's cover is the website.

It took me and krabbo less then day to setup our site. We used drupal, have light box, dynamic changing screen shots on home page and random character portraits. and now an easy to to maintain the site. Though the content is not finished it's well under way.

As for developers (assuming your talking about programmers) acceptance, well it'd be a sad world we live in if we were stuck with programmer art all the time. The Sydne model will still be the current Tomb Raider and we'd have alot more box games out there. Programmers are not artists.

I can't tell you how many times I've had people turn away from irrlicht because of the website, and the few that make it to the screen shot page are turn off from there. It's 99% of the feed back I get from people when talking to them about irrlicht. Their general impression of from its' web site "irrlicht looks old and out dated." And then irrlicht looses out. For example google summer of code.

I tried for over a year to get our screenshots to be put in the irrlicht gallery, it wasn't until we moved on to another engine that I was finally asked for some screenshots. Mainly because no one wants to deal with the current site. Thats a good indication change is needed.

Somethings the new site should have:
- Random screenshots on the first page
- List of projects berried deep in the forums (most people don't look here) Like XEffects should be listed right off the front page.
- Any interesting plugins should have a section
- Show Case of projects and or games (this is key)
- New Topics and New Posts maybe so people at a glance can see whats going on in teh community today. (helps for community building)

It's time to grow up boys, Change is good

I completely agree. Its time for change. I HAVE A DREAM WERE IRRLICHT WILL NOT BE JUDGED BY THE LOOK OF ITS WEBSITE BUT BY THE PROJECTS AND CONTENTS OF ITS SOURCE. WHEN THY NEWBS LOOK AT OGRE AND IRRLICHT LET IRRLICHT SHINE APON THERE YOUNG EYES LETTING THEM KNOW SIMPLICITY AND POWER CAN GO HAND IN HAND. I HAVE A DREAM!...

P.S i haven't slept in 2 days so i really don't know how /\ sounds.. but it played out well in my head.

i thought about it and decided to cause some noise. I made a site layout that i think works (its flexible).

It uses simple css and html (some dhtml for the fading images)
It uses the existing content edit pipeline (or a simpler one if need be)
It would only take about an hour to css it properly.

Some cool things this mockup is missing :

some nice icons for the items,
better layout and formatting (its rough),
alignments fixed etc.


So, how about this?


And i agree with varmint. Lets move forward.

Ladies and gentlemen.. Its been pimped...

Very cool! Something like this for the web site, and if someone could throw together a forum theme we'd be in business! In my opinion the default theme for the forums looks a bit...drab...

I want change!, this website layout fuzzy make is good and to be honest you will feel much better on it then the default one...

This topic wins.

EDIT: Ok I emailed Niko in the dev mailing list.

show niko!!

NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!

and if someone could throw together a forum theme

phpbb skins are simple too could skin it if necessary.

Blindside : Nice. lets vote or something?

other people submit ideas!!!

wildrj wrote:Ladies and gentlemen.. Its been pimped...

I agree, that last skin is cool, even the noob request looks cool!!. Go for it!.

Also, to make a bit more noise, in the future when we decide to get a proper logo (not a badge of sorts) we can do something cool and modern like this :



http://axertion.deviantart.com/art/AVso ... -123073823
http://axertion.deviantart.com/art/Enci ... o-94476677
http://axertion.deviantart.com/art/Oppo ... o-94338369

The reason i say its not a logo
a) it forces everything its ever used on to look like web 1.5 (cartoons?)
b) its not flexible at all.
c) its cannot be made into an icon, nothing.

The logo above shows an existing 2d logo, in a cool 3d style. With a proper logo typeface its possible to make 2000 cool looking logos off the same small shapes.

I would be more than happy to suggest a bunch. and make cool 3d logo (its made in 2d btw, not a render)

Of course, this is all theoretical. its the higher ups that decide...
I just think we can do SO much better. Ill give arms to make it happen.

Yes, the site definitely needs to be pimped. When I first saw this site, it looked like the project must have been dead because the site looked so old. Eventually my searches kept leading back to here so I started using it anyway.

Also, I think it is about time that the forums moved to phpBB3! I've been curious as to why that hasn't been done yet. You can upgrade phpBB2 to phpBB3 without losing any data. phpBB3 is also a crapload easier to integrate with other software.