Simple fog...

Serg Nechaeff · Post by **Serg Nechaeff** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 12:07 am

oh gosh, dont mention crystal space, it took me a week to realize i am a life away from compiling the simplest 3d application, with irrlicht i was able to fly through a decent scene of my own within a day

Maybe the Niko's way was to simplify our (lamers' and newbies') life?

The engine will collapse only if noone will release games using irrlicht

DarkWhoppy · Post by **DarkWhoppy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:19 am

I agree with Serg Nechaeff, many people start a project and never finish it. You see my Galactic Racer project? (link to the site on my Signature) That will be completed before March. So hopefully that'll be a successful game created with Irrlicht. There's alot of games in development with Irrlicht on the links page. I hope they are all completed.
So if there aren't any completed games with Irrlicht... no one will want to use the engine and the community will begin to die. Over the past few months i've seen the Irrlicht Forums get more and more members every day. People are starting to try out Irrlicht and the demos avaliable. Its all in the quality of the game demos, people look for "eye candy". The easier Irrlicht is to use then the quicker people can finish their game/project and go back to work on improving things. (in my opinion...)

Robomaniac · Post by **Robomaniac** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:10 am

While i agree strongly with cochi and sirshane, i have to also agree with Serg. My game will be completed (in version 1.0) by the end of March. One of the features that drew me towards this engine was that there were many demos and example of real world games available.

--The Robomaniac

vivre la CVS!

DarkWhoppy · Post by **DarkWhoppy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:25 am

Robomaniac wrote: My game will be completed (in version 1.0) by the end of March.

--The Robomaniac

vivre la CVS!

Do you have a website yet? (i'd like to check it out, I look through the development of games often so I wanna add yours to my list)

Robomaniac · Post by **Robomaniac** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:10 am

I'm in the process of putting together a good looking web page and server, but for now, the web page is www.eve-corp.com/centaurforce

VeneX · Post by **VeneX** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:34 pm

I can say you, I will absolutely complete my first techdemo

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I don't promise about the rest but, it's my hobby so you can be sure

Robomaniac · Post by **Robomaniac** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:19 pm

Sorry i'm a little late w/ the reply, but i'm using directx, but opengl doesn't work either, and i tried changing the second param to false, but that didn't work either. Also idk what error it is, when i try to debug nothing happens.

--The Robomaniac

DarkWhoppy · Post by **DarkWhoppy** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:30 pm

I had a problem with my game crashing without warning too. It depends on the device and color bit. (with OpenGL 1.2 24bit Galactic Racer will crash..) so create an options menu and use the Software Engine before launching the real game.

Chev · Post by **Chev** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:34 pm

Niko has a clear and concise list of features that HE wants to implement. It's his project. Out of ~70 features that he has planned for 1.0, I see all but 17 of them in COMPLETED status. He continues to implement a few features with each incremental release. Nothing is stopping anyone from posting or sending code to Niko for him to look over if they want to help out. I think too many of you are looking at this as a business project(Re: "Its gonna fail if....") which it is not.

R00mpel · Post by **R00mpel** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:53 pm

2All: Irrlicht is a great engine, note that it is FREE and OPEN SOURCE!
2DarkWhoppy & Robomaniac: Uhm... That's really strange...

I'll try to do something about it...

SuryIII3D_guest · Post by **SuryIII3D_guest** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:42 pm

Of course it's great !
And those who think that it's design is broken or the code is written poorly
should have i little respect to Niko who's giving his hard work and source for free so some "great coders" can look into it and make conclusions how awful it is..hmm guys you should look at some commercial's engines code if ever availible

I think the engine is very proffesionaly coded and documented , i myself am an complete C++ nOob but after some hours spent digging the source i was able to understand it and even made some modifications in the DX part ..(thanks for the comments Niko)

As for the engine's API i think it's extremely easy but i think some advanced calls would do it more powerful ie. some functions that return the DX device , D3d, DDraw etc pointers so we can manipulate the rendering in our games code if needed.

About the scene graph implementation ..well i think there is no need to think how it should be designed and structured - there was a 3D engine made by Microsoft and it's called D3DRM ..this is the greatest scene graph implementation i've ever seen and i think if Niko manage to implement it in Irrlicht this would be just great..!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/defau ... d3dapi.asp

@R00mpel : did you managed to compile TV tutorials with VC++ 7.0 ?

saigumi · Post by **saigumi** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:42 pm

Ok, this thread has gotten off-topic... so, I have created a new topic to continue this discussion with.

http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... =5000#5000

R00mpel · Post by **R00mpel** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:24 pm

2DarkWhoppy & Robomaniac: Uhm... I hadn't found the source of the problem, which video display cards have you got (if not a secret)?.. Anyways, i'm really in short of time

SuryIII3D_guest: Only in VC++ 6.0...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:06 am

can't get it to work on my ati radeon 7500M
compiles ok but doesn't show any fog i do the following
begin scene, enable fog, draw stuff, end scene.

any ideas? thanks
moni

deps · Post by **deps** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:27 am

you only need to enable the fog once.