Re: Any other decent 3D Graphics Engines besides Irrlicht??
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:56 pm
definitely prefer a gui client if available (for windows the best is SourceTree, followed by Github for windows and then by TortoiseGIT).
Official forum of the Irrlicht Engine
https://irrlicht.sourceforge.io/forum/
Thank god i saw this post! now i know i'm not the only one who feels EXACLY the same way.Git is totally unnecessary , and stuff that ivolves commandline/terminal in the 21th century... i really hate that...No worries, I get why people prefer distributed source control systems (I use hg for a while now). But git's still messing with me far too often in my relative simple projects. I don't even care if I don't like it - will still switch to it as most users here prefer it. But I have to be able to at least work with it without wishing to shoot it every few weeks (aka pretty much every time I need to do something that goes beyond the trivial basics). I should invest more time in learning it, but source control systems are to me boring as hell and I have already 2 which just work ... so some motivation problem as well :-/
Nice, i guess you have been doing programming for about 3-4years? Give it some more time and you will suddenly change your opinion about gui and command line tools.johann_gambolputty wrote: Thank god i saw this post! now i know i'm not the only one who feels EXACLY the same way.Git is totally unnecessary , and stuff that ivolves commandline/terminal in the 21th century... i really hate that...
I mean no offense but we live in the era where humanity is near not travel to mars , colozine planets ( ), kids have touch screen cellphones ... For god's sake why do i still need to type words /commands into commandline ?Just before someone mentions "Oh you can't expect everything to work out of the box" I don't want everything out of the box but if something can be achieved with a simple button click , why just not press a button instead of writing/navigate/command a boring commandline ?
It's a matter of simplicity for the programmer. Designing a GUI is more complicated than throwing together a command line, the GUI needs an extra library, and GUI design is highly subjective. If you want a GUI for some command line tool, download one or try making one! The fact of the matter is that GUIs are harder to write, change and update than CLI and sometimes GUIs just don't make sense.johann_gambolputty wrote:Thank god i saw this post! now i know i'm not the only one who feels EXACLY the same way.Git is totally unnecessary , and stuff that ivolves commandline/terminal in the 21th century... i really hate that...No worries, I get why people prefer distributed source control systems (I use hg for a while now). But git's still messing with me far too often in my relative simple projects. I don't even care if I don't like it - will still switch to it as most users here prefer it. But I have to be able to at least work with it without wishing to shoot it every few weeks (aka pretty much every time I need to do something that goes beyond the trivial basics). I should invest more time in learning it, but source control systems are to me boring as hell and I have already 2 which just work ... so some motivation problem as well :-/
I mean no offense but we live in the era where humanity is near not travel to mars , colozine planets ( ), kids have touch screen cellphones ... For god's sake why do i still need to type words /commands into commandline ?Just before someone mentions "Oh you can't expect everything to work out of the box" I don't want everything out of the box but if something can be achieved with a simple button click , why just not press a button instead of writing/navigate/command a boring commandline ?
Sudi wrote:Nice, i guess you have been doing programming for about 3-4years? Give it some more time and you will suddenly change your opinion about gui and command line tools.johann_gambolputty wrote: Thank god i saw this post! now i know i'm not the only one who feels EXACLY the same way.Git is totally unnecessary , and stuff that ivolves commandline/terminal in the 21th century... i really hate that...
I mean no offense but we live in the era where humanity is near not travel to mars , colozine planets ( ), kids have touch screen cellphones ... For god's sake why do i still need to type words /commands into commandline ?Just before someone mentions "Oh you can't expect everything to work out of the box" I don't want everything out of the box but if something can be achieved with a simple button click , why just not press a button instead of writing/navigate/command a boring commandline ?
If you didn't get the analogy i'm sorry. ok let me explain you : if you have a modern car with servo steering wheel (in this case lets say a pc with quadcore cpu 32 GB ram , a modern totally GUI based operating system and a mouse) i don't want to type anything except maybe writing emails or using Skype...Except we don't use a command-line interface for cars (nor do they operate in such a way that would make that interface rational)... which makes your point fallacious (argumentum ad absurdum)
Ok lets do another test. Lets say my visual studio is already running ... Now lets see you create a new project , add dependancies , add source and header files. In the meantime realize that you don't like the current music track playing in your media player so skip to next one , change your compile settings from Debug to Releaseand you get compiled executable even before Visual studio has finished loading at startup XD
Sudi wrote:fight!
ent1ty wrote:fight what?
Is it not amusing how history can repeat itself even withing such short time intervals?CuteAlien wrote:Don't ask what - just fight!
Yes Visual studio is great if you can afford a powerful enough machine (its surprising how hurts waiting for autocompletion in medium range machines) and want to develop for Win/Xbox only using projects that provide binaries for your VS version (at this point you are better no longer using C++ but instead use C# and you will even save some time). End of the story.Ok lets do another test. Lets say my visual studio is already running ... Now lets see you create a new project , add dependancies , add source and header files. In the meantime realize that you don't like the current music track playing in your media player so skip to next one , change your compile settings from Debug to Release
and copy some media files to your project folder...
I've would probably dringking my coffee watching my app running while you still typing you Danielle Steel novels...
I even win if VS already started and both have setup our project... since pressing a build button beats typing Compile.bat every time