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School Sucks!

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:14 am
by thesmileman
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Hello everyone, just sitting here trying to read the fourm and finish last minute work on two pointless internet classes for college that is do at 11:59. Just a thought can anyone HATE school as much as me? I love so many things about it but man the classes that do not relate to my major piss me off so F#@#!ing bad it is not funny. I am in my fifth year and finishing up my undergraduate degree in Computer Science and have been working on my masters degree in Software Engineering for six months.

Can someone please explain to me why I need these two classes I am taking right now? They are Marriage and the Family, and Americain Literature III.

If I see another statistic about the family or another poem I think I am going to BLOW. I want to work on some 3D designs but I can't seem to make much time with these DAMN POINTLESS classes.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:32 am
by afecelis
dunno, let me remember if I hated school so much. I first gotta get back to 1988, h aha ha h a

then try to remember if I hated college as much (1995) :D

But in general I don't think I hated it, as a matter of fact I had a ton of fun in school and in college.

ps. Smileman, I didn't know you were so young!!! you don't sound like a teenie!

man, we'll have to wait for those beers!!! some 5 years I think? he he eh e :wink:

kidding! you know you got a friend here in Colombia!

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:19 am
by xhrit
>Can someone please explain to me why I need these two classes I am taking right now? They are Marriage and the Family, and Americain Literature III.


Indoctrination into a career path that supports their agenda, not your quality of life..

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:34 am
by Captain_Kill
I'll agree with your declaration thesmileman :( School does suck... What sucks even more is when you don't learn anything at school...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:44 am
by afecelis
whoa guys!

your generation is deeply philosophycal. So simple in some things, so complicated in others. I simply couldn't tell which is right or wrong.

anyway, I like the intellectual part involved in the process. Too bad I got to it after 32 years of existence!!! h eh ehe he he :D

take advantage of what you guys got at the age you guys got!

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:43 am
by bal
afecelis wrote:take advantage of what you guys got at the age you guys got!
We'll sure do :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 5:40 pm
by Kristian
Luckily German Universitys don't force you to take classes not related to what you study (at least not in the field I'm in). To me, the American University system seems to be more of an extended High School than really focusing on what's important (only know about bachelor degree, I sure hope it gets better for "higher" degrees).

But then again, a degree only shows that you can cope with the system and have a certain amount of endurance :wink:
If you really want to know something, it's usually better to do it on your own.

Edit: Just saw that you're from Texas, thesmileman, heh I used to live in OK for a year. Tuck Fexas :wink: :wink:

Pity the teachers

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:29 pm
by Oz
I was watching the TV today about how bad it is getting in the UK for teachers (I dont remember the statistics properly)
It was something like 8 out of 10 teachers feel unsafe in the workplace, 1 in 4 have been attacked by pupils.
And so on. (im fuzzy, please do correct me if you remember)

They are being forced from thier jobs these days, its sad.
(Not that I condone caning them. Schools (in the UK) need an electric shock room for trouble-makers. Hehe) ;) j/k

PS: Yeah, you guys are old. Want me to start building a pyramid to put you in?
j/k :D
Youve got many years of being old to look forward to. :)

Cya.

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:13 pm
by Tyn
I've never seen a teacher attacked by anyone, I don't know where that 1 in 4 came from, teachers are leaving because they get paid crap money. Underfunding going a stupidly long time has screwed up all are services, the police, education, NHS all screwed.

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:49 am
by DarkWhoppy
Tyn wrote:I've never seen a teacher attacked by anyone, I don't know where that 1 in 4 came from,
I have... well, it wasn't a teacher... but the school policeman :-P (hahaha, pretty funny too) We have this dresscode crap, where everyone has to have their shirts tucked in.... and the policeman walked up to the wrong boy one day and stuck his hand in his pants (to tuck in his shirt.....) and.... well... think abou tit :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:47 pm
by Oz
I don't know where that 1 in 4 came from
Actually I think may be 1 in 4 have been threatened with violence. (UK)
Man, when I was at school we were terrified of our teachers.
Infact the bullies were the teachers in my day. :(

One of my favorite teachers died and his son was in my class too. So yeah I agree. School does suck afterall!

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:48 am
by Masdus
For those that car the reason universities in America force you to do classes that do not relate to your major is to ensure a broader education to attempt to make you more aware of the society you live in and not just provide career based knowledge. The general idea is to ensure your education is not too specialised.

Here in australia we dont have to put up with the same thing in uni, but our high school system forces us to do certain subjects for the same reason

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 1:25 pm
by saigumi
Grade school creates the bowl to fill.
High school fills that bowl.
College teaches you how to make the bowl bigger.
After graduation, you start to fill it again.

My son is on his 2nd year of pre-school and I'm planning on going back and getting another degree at the local community college if they get the game development degree program in place.

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 6:11 pm
by Kristian
Well, to me it's school (up untill high school) that should teach you the broad knowledge and universitys should be for specialization. Forcing people to take all sorts of classes in universitys is more of a hotfix for a failed regular education in school. Especially so in countrys were universitys are not free of charge. I don't think it's a correct assumption to make someone pay for a general education he/she could have gotten in school.

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:59 am
by Flatline
Hm. I wasnt going to comment on this thread. Mostly because I disagree with an awful lot of it and didn't fancy getting into a flamewar.
Basically though, I'll say I'm in favour of teaching a wider curriculum in addition to the 'major' at university. Though I don't think it should factor as a major part of the grades.
The reason I'm in favour of it is that people who specialise in really narrow fields at university (which is very true nowadays) seem somehow lacking as far as employers are concerned. When you hire someone, sure a good deal of what you're after is their skill in your area, but employers also want a more-rounded individual who has skill and knowledge in many areas. Firstly, because it just makes them that much more interesting to have around and secondly because you never know when it's going to come in handy. Imagine a game firm (which several of you may well end up working for) is releasing a product globally and you're in communication with lots of distributors. Suddenly, you get a very seemingly important phonecall from an Italian lady who is very excited/concerned about it. Unfortunately, your marketing team have no skills in Italian. Up steps your lead programmer who just happens to have taken some Italian classes at university. He sorts out the problem and saves the day. See what I mean?