Irrlicht Engine

Main page is missing some new tutorials, as I think new users would like to see more tutorials on the main page.
Also external tutorials have broken links, like:
Orthogonal 3D Engine
Seamless World & Repeating Seamless words
Irrlicht & RakNet

since non of us here has the authority to change anything on the website, maybe we should make an unofficial irrlicht website.

@Virion
That would be the wiki I think... thats something we can edit.

That said... Maybe we should link the tutorials and such directly to the wiki tutorial page?

maybe we should make a blog and update everyone with the latest news, projects and screenshots related to irrlicht.

Just wondering... I've heard before about problems editing the main website... so:

Why would no one have the authority to edit the main website? Is the person who does (I'm guessing the initial dev, niko (?)) dead/in a coma/in a crazy house?

Hm, well, I thought I would have given everybody in the dev team the rights to edit everything on the website by now. But I'll have a look into the always changing sourceforge settings again.

agamemnus wrote:Is the person who does (I'm guessing the initial dev, niko (?)) dead/in a coma/in a crazy house?

Or option D: a bit of everything?

He's alive!

for real the website needs to be updated. Maybe there should be a group of web developers to control it instead of mods and the dev team since they don't seem to have the time

Yeah, several of the devs have access to the websites. In case there are interesting things on the wiki we could also get them over to the main website. But IMHO, Wiki content was usually where it should be. Not because it was not good enough, but because it was content which might need some updates over time. Mostly code snippets and link collections.
Larger website updates usually died because no one of the dev team found time and will to change the foundations and install all those fancy stuff we might need for easier handling of the content. And no one else volunteered for updates of the pages in their current style. So it remains as is as long as no major changes of the general situation will occur.

hybrid wrote:Yeah, several of the devs have access to the websites. In case there are interesting things on the wiki we could also get them over to the main website. But IMHO, Wiki content was usually where it should be. Not because it was not good enough, but because it was content which might need some updates over time. Mostly code snippets and link collections.
Larger website updates usually died because no one of the dev team found time and will to change the foundations and install all those fancy stuff we might need for easier handling of the content. And no one else volunteered for updates of the pages in their current style. So it remains as is as long as no major changes of the general situation will occur.

In other words, nothing is going to happen unless a web dev in the community volunteers. The devs are busy with other things, such as coding Irrlicht.

Well, IMHO even worse. If no ne of the dev team will have much spare time, the major changes of the underlying framework won't happen at all. We cannot give this job easily to someone else - this needs to be at least manageable by the dev team.
So unless someone else would volunteer to update the website with its current setup not much will change.

How about people start making some mock-up's as to what new website should look like? I think irrlicht needs a totally redesigned website, not just link fixes and information updates. I am an experienced web developer, but i am only skilled with database/server side coding. My art design skills are atrocious, but I will help in anyway i can

Well, I think the design is just fine as it is, besides the issue of adding new tutorials and broken links.

I'd hate to see the site become flashy, unwieldy and un-viewable correctly in 800x600. (as many sites are now doing... neglecting the 800x600 users! )

I doubt any serious developer can get away with such a small resolution for their workspace. Other people might have 800x600 but they're unlikely to visit the site.

I'd hate to see the site become flashy, unwieldy and un-viewable correctly in 800x600.

I would hate to see the site become too flashy, but 800x600 I think my cellphone has a bigger screen