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3DModelerMan
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Windows 8

Post by 3DModelerMan »

Has everyone seen the Windows 8 leaks? I heard that HTML5 and Javascript are going to pretty much take over in Windows. Are they deprecating C++? Will C++ be able to do the same things as HTML5 and Javascript?
That would be illogical captain...

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Alpha Omega
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Alpha Omega »

They just approved the new C++ standard C++0x (C++11) last month. No they wont deprecate C++ in Windows 8? The JNI (Java Native Interface) will never be as good as C++(my opinion) because the code needs to run in the JVM which can be nearly as fast as native but not as fast (my opinion). Isn't the overhead on the real time compiling in Java also a bottleneck? Or is it only the first time you run the application? Either way I would pick fast over fancy.
kazymjir
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Re: Windows 8

Post by kazymjir »

Windows 8 will be written in HTML5 and JavaScript.
3DModelerMan
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Re: Windows 8

Post by 3DModelerMan »

No they said that Windows 8 Apps will be written in HTML5 and Javascript. I guess we get to look forward to a new version of Visual Studio then. If they're going to keep C++ support I guess I'll probably end up buying Windows 8 after all.
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Radikalizm »

kazymjir wrote:Windows 8 will be written in HTML5 and JavaScript.
I'd love to see someone attempt to write an OS in HTML5 and JavaScript :D
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Re: Windows 8

Post by mongoose7 »

I thought it was a joke, and a pretty good one at that. Well done, kazymjir!
aanderse
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Re: Windows 8

Post by aanderse »

they probably don't mean the actual os but the applications within the os

gnome 3 has really nice introspection so that every gnome/gobject library is/can be automatically bound to javascript (among other languages)
gnome 3 also has done some cool work to create an html5 rendering "driver" (to borrow the term from irrlicht)
gnome 3 also has some nice css integration...

so you can write gnome 3 applications in javascript and html5

the trend setters are heading towards web and desktop integration/unification
this isn't really that shocking or crazy, just the next step we're being pushed in
write your libs (and performance sensitive code) in a real language (c, c++, c#, etc...) and then glue your application together with script which uses your libs

as mentioned above... c, c++ and c# aren't going anywhere anytime soon
mongoose7
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Re: Windows 8

Post by mongoose7 »

Post to MSDN.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

Personally I think you are too young to be left in charge.
ACE247
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Re: Windows 8

Post by ACE247 »

Oh my god. :shock: Save us all! HTML5 and Java, what has the world come to? I'm not buying Windows 8 for PC, when they already say it has 'APPS'...

Or are you talking about the mobile version? I Still despise java for its jvm rubbish, the only code I'm ever going to program is Native code.
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Cube_ »

seconded.
"this is not the bottleneck you are looking for"
Sir_Hans
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Sir_Hans »

It's javascript and not java as far as I know. So there's no jvm because javascript is not the same as java.
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Cube_ »

well still...
html5 and javascript....
they are officially insane(er than before).
"this is not the bottleneck you are looking for"
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Re: Windows 8

Post by docWild »

Windows 8 will be useless as it is part of the pattern....

Win 3.1 = ok
win 95 = terrible
win 98 = ok
win millenium = terrible
win XP = ok
win Vista = terrible
win 7 = OK
win 8 = YOU GUESSED IT... terrible


Ever feel like you're being manipulated?
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Re: Windows 8

Post by Cube_ »

indeed.
and has anyone noticed that anything they buy they also break?
Like skype, it worked awesomely BEFORE microsoft bought it.
now it's broken, and it auto updates. (set to ASK, but not autoupdate! downgrading to skype 4.x, updates back to 5.... no choice :( )
"this is not the bottleneck you are looking for"
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Re: Windows 8

Post by serengeor »

aaammmsterdddam wrote:now it's broken, and it auto updates. (set to ASK, but not autoupdate! downgrading to skype 4.x, updates back to 5.... no choice :( )
Use linux skype 2.~ has been like for years, problem solved :D
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