Island Demo

Spintz · Post by **Spintz** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:35 am

You shouldn't need to see the source for this. Seeing something like this should encourage you to want to do stuff as cool as this, or even do something better. You're going to learn a whole lot more trying and failing and trying again and finaly getting it working, than you are copying and pasting then asking questions when you can't get it tweaked the way you want it.

Virion · Post by **Virion** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:01 am

Spintz wrote:You shouldn't need to see the source for this. Seeing something like this should encourage you to want to do stuff as cool as this, or even do something better. You're going to learn a whole lot more trying and failing and trying again and finaly getting it working, than you are copying and pasting then asking questions when you can't get it tweaked the way you want it.

I agreed with Spintz. Copy paste won't teach you anything.

Luben · Post by **Luben** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:40 am

Still, reading others code is a fast way to learn tricks. The hl1-sdk taught me a lot

lantis · Post by **lantis** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:21 am

Spintz im always say - you just noob

If somebody want FINISH game project he must reuse code of other ppls
or its can be dead project.

About your messsage - LOL? Why you use Irrlicht source code for your "engine"?
Meybe better write YOUR OWN engine? No? LOL

BlindSide · Post by **BlindSide** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:14 pm

As childish as that sounds, I agree. I never have to ask any questions about incorporating peoples code, and I never need any comments or anything. The reason I want to see the code is to evaluate the method, it might be more time effective than reading a few books on shaders and coming up with a mediocre result. Also, I will still learn alot because I feel that I am at a point where I can absorb information about the code just by staring at it

omaremad · Post by **omaremad** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:06 pm

You shouldn't need to see the source for this. Seeing something like this should encourage you to want to do stuff as cool as this, or even do something better. You're going to learn a whole lot more trying and failing and trying again and finaly getting it working, than you are copying and pasting then asking questions when you can't get it tweaked the way you want it. Rolling Eyes

The problem is this is no proof of concept, therefore porting it to irrlicht and not opening it proves nothing and encourages no one. And since this is irrlicht this means not evryone here can/wants/specialised in every field of every thing in realtime rendering; therefore we should help each other.

Anyway using that many floating point render targets is a crime against humanity, imagine if you need to add a few realtime cube maps for a game on top of that.

buhatkj · Post by **buhatkj** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:20 pm

Spintz wrote:You shouldn't need to see the source for this. Seeing something like this should encourage you to want to do stuff as cool as this, or even do something better. You're going to learn a whole lot more trying and failing and trying again and finaly getting it working, than you are copying and pasting then asking questions when you can't get it tweaked the way you want it.

dude, i couldn't disagree more, but since everybody else has already elaborated my same reasons, i'll spare you that...

bigfish · Post by **bigfish** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:58 am

Jeez, seems to me like you guys are all going off on a tangent and being pretty harsh. Regardless of the things sio based his work on and regardless of whether or not he wants to open the source, it's still some sweet looking stuff. Bravo sio! Keep up the good work.

krama757 · Post by **krama757** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:28 am

SIO2 after seeing this one, I went crazy and went through all your work on your website....its so damn impressive!

I am eagerly awaiting the source release on this one so that I may implement it into my game and ofcourse give you credit

sio2 · Post by **sio2** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:43 am

omaremad wrote: Anyway using that many floating point render targets is a crime against humanity, imagine if you need to add a few realtime cube maps for a game on top of that.

I take great exception to being accused of "crimes against humanity". You think I'm going to release source code after that remark?

Halan · Post by **Halan** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:15 pm

Hey peeps,
dont get on sio2s nerves

still working on this?

if so could you maybe show the difference between non-floating point render target hdr and the floating point one with two screens?

greets,
halan

afecelis · Post by **afecelis** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:16 pm

HEY GUYS, PLEASE CALM DOWN!

Sio2 is a very valuable member of this community and one of the few that shows up quality work. It's up to him if he wants to release the code or not; If you check his site there are already several examples with source code available. I think you're turning a valuable thread from which we could all be learning new stuff and sharing ideas into a personal matter. He mentions it very clearly, he was able to translate and port an OGRE example with all of its assets into Irrlicht (well, Irrspintz), showcasing state of the art shader techniques. Please focus guys. This is the attitude that has scared away many users in the past, and it's not what we want for any of our members.

So please cool it down and get it back on track!

regards,
Alvaro F. Celis
Irrlicht Team

BlindSide · Post by **BlindSide** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:55 am

afecelis wrote:This is the attitude that has scared away many users in the past,

First time I see this happening...

@Sio2, im sure omaremad didn't mean it against you personally, infact it was purely technical criticism refering to the amount of floating point render targets, which is in fact probably the fault of the original island demo not yours. Also I don't think he would want to see the sourcecode that bad himself because he is quite familiar with the same field as you involving shaders and things, it is the less knowledgable members that would benefit.

tinhtoitrangtay · Post by **tinhtoitrangtay** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:32 pm

Please, you can upload source code. Thanks

dlangdev · Post by **dlangdev** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:26 pm

Not gonna happen.

You can figure this out yourself, tho.

Click the URL below and read the code in there...

http://www.humus.name/index.php?page=3D

Learn as much as you can from there and try to implement those concepts here, if that suits your fancy.

Note: There's no community around that codebase, so you're on your own. I send only one email a month to Humus, that's pretty much it.

Currently merging that codebase to NVSG at the moment, which is cool.

w00t w00t

Irrlicht Engine

Island Demo

crazy talk spintz!!