No Not Again Mr Spock! Damn Windows

dejai · Post by **dejai** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:01 am

Well while browsing the internet I found the funniest signature I have ever seen it when a little bit like this.

Now on the subject I heard niko suggesting that the windows operating system is an easier system to work with when it comes to game development due to unix having so many versions of its system that if irrlicht compiles on one system its not even guaranteed to work on another version of the same system.

Does anyone have opinions on this issue?

dejai · Post by **dejai** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:03 am

I don't watch star trek but I have a feeling its not Mr Spock

shogun · Post by **shogun** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:48 am

It's Data.

Virion · Post by **Virion** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:49 am

LOL funny.

rooly · Post by **rooly** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:17 pm

its extra funny to me...i actually watched that episode yesterday...

fireside · Post by **fireside** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:40 am

I think I'll be going back to linux soon. Yeah, there are little differences here and there that cause incompatibility. Once you get set up, you're all right, and most people that use it know their stuff so they can fix things that are wrong sometimes. There's one decent software installer that works on a lot of systems but I forget the name of it. In general, you tend to be a bigger fish because it's a smaller pond as far as the game scene goes, so you can post your game at the Linux Game Tome and generate some interest if it's any good at all. They're mostly hackers, so good people, although a little uppity some times. If your going to port to unix, use devc++ or codeblocks with ming. Once Microsoft get their hooks in software, it's hard to get them out. It's hard to find c++ software that has been touched by Microsoft that isn't completely polluted.

FlyingIsFun1217 · Post by **FlyingIsFun1217** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:03 am

Linux is my only development environment.

FlyingIsFun1217

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:32 pm

I develop on Win, linux and Mac. Working on Mac at this present moment. I'll give one point to windows, Visual Studio, especially well configured, is really good. Apart from that, Mac is even easier to code for than Windows. But, yeah, linux is harder

FlyingIsFun1217 · Post by **FlyingIsFun1217** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:28 pm

Dorth wrote:But, yeah, linux is harder

Just wondering what you experience with it is. I've never run into a problem except for maybe a missing dependency, which is very easy to correct.

FlyingIsFun1217

fireside · Post by **fireside** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:39 pm

I'll give one point to windows, Visual Studio, especially well configured, is really good.

Kind of figures a Mac person would like something that ostentatiously bloated. If you don't have a high end system, it's like walking in molasses, and what makes me mad is the weight has nothing to do with c++, it's all their .NET garbage.

Joe_Oliveri · Post by **Joe_Oliveri** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:26 am

Well I guess I'll have to step in here, I would not call .NET garbage. I think it has a positive future for both gaming and software.

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:44 am

First, I hate .NET. For many reasons. Hence why I disable the managed extension and thus don't have to endure the "bloat" you're referring to.

Second, why is a high-end IDE a bad thing? The code is still the same, the files are the same, the editor is simply more versatile.

As for the "a mac" person, like I said, I develop on all 3. I hadn't worked on a Mac for a long while (except gaming, but that ain't work) before starting those projects.

Also, the "kind of figures a X person" is everything and all I hate about generalization. You're an elitist with a small mind. If you don't have anything nice nor constructive, keep it to yourself and do everyone a favor. Being a jerk is still not a good reason enough to act as one.

fireside · Post by **fireside** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:55 pm

Macintosh is a GUI system, which uses a lot of horsepower, that's why I said a mac person would feel that way. You're just taking it overly personal. It's a stupid OS. It isn't your race or anything. Are you going to tell me that people that own Macintosh's don't love the bells and whistles? Some more generalizations: Linux users like lean and mean and like to tinker, Windows users follow the crowd. Aren't I the racist, though?
Macintosh is functional bloat, though. Windows is just ugly bloat.
By the way, I'm using Windows right now.

Joe_Oliveri · Post by **Joe_Oliveri** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:55 am

The only ugly thing about Windows is Vista.

XP I never have any real problems with.

I have used Mac, as I owned a Power Book, or a G4 what ever it was called. I threw it out the window into the dumpster. It was a very pretty OS, but I didn't like it.

As for Linux, very useful. I wouldn't trust anything else to run a server with.

Programming wise I caught the C# (.NET) flu and never got better. I'm not to sure why you think it's garbage or what this bloat you are talking about is. Unless of course your talking about Vista. In which case I don't think it's .NET causing the bloat.

3ddev · Post by **3ddev** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:34 am

I am currently running Ubuntu Linux, after running Windows XP before it crashed on me.

As Niko agreed pm his blog, Linux is really the environment for developers. The problem is distribution. I have learned to circumvent this by using cross-platform development libraries such as Irrlicht, wxWindows or even GTK. Since most of my intended users are running Windows, I simply compile the final installer on my older Windows computer once my project is finished. It really is quite simple. I might also add that Ubuntu allows you to dual-boot Windows and Linux together. While I haven't tried this myself, I think that this arrangement has many advantages. It might definitely be the best choice for those who don't have more than one computer.