Searching for developers to level editor

Lprd2007 · Post by **Lprd2007** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:05 am

The source code of GEDIT is available at http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/genesis3d/GEditPro_07_source.zip
Here are some screenshots of GEDIT:

Seven · Post by **Seven** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:32 am

interesting idea. I always did like the genesis and destiny editors.... hmmmm

JP · Post by JP » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:23 am

Why not just write a .3DT parser to get the scene into irrlicht? that would probably be easier and quicker than developing a whole new editor.

Although if you do want to go ahead with your own editor then the Mesh Viewer example in the irrlicht SDK is a good place to start from and Christian Clavet's First King editor is also a pretty good start on an editor with lots of good functionality, though still lacking and i think he's currently recoding it completely with some more coding skills he's learned.

There are a few other editor projects in the projects forum too though their names escape me.

Lprd2007 · Post by **Lprd2007** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:24 pm

JP wrote:Why not just write a .3DT parser to get the scene into irrlicht

That would be the solution, but I didn't find any .3DT parser or source to manage .3DT files.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:37 pm

Does 3DT = 3D Topicscape?
If so, the Internet says that scenes are held in a Borland InterBase 6 database. It shouldn't be too hard to open this database and get access to the data inside, InterBase is open source

JP · Post by JP » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:19 pm

You'd have to write some sort of parser yourself and just get a specification for the 3DT format, if bitplane is right then that probably gets you heading in the right direction. If it's just a database then that's probably quite simple to get the relevant details out of.

Lprd2007 · Post by **Lprd2007** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:55 pm

Ok, I'll search in google that format, I guess i'll find more information

because lots of games uses databases for levels (Max Payne, for example). If u are interested in helping me to the development, please contact me, my email and web page are on the top of the post. Thanks!

sio2 · Post by **sio2** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:57 pm

Quark:
quark.planetquake.gamespy.com

Lprd2007 · Post by **Lprd2007** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:40 pm

I've searched in google and I found this 3DT unofficial spec:

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Genesis3D 3DT File Format, version 1.32: 
This spec was produced by examining the code of GEdit and Genesis3D engine, 
  and a sample 3DT file output by GEdit. 
Each line is of format: KeyName Values 
  Example: Vec3d -1296.000000 -415.999756 967.999756 
But some have multiple KeyNames in a single line 
  Example: TexInfo Rotate 0 Shift 0 0 Scale 1.000000 1.000000 Name "bkrock" 
Lines tend to have various whitespace at the beginning. 
All parentheses here are annotation, not in the actual format. 
Brackets indicate substitutions. 
Tokens are separated by whitespace. 
N = decimal integer 
F = float 
S = string 
X = hex integer 
B = boolean (zero or nonzero) 

[Header] 
[Brushlist] 
[Entities] 
[Models] 
[Groups] 
[Sky] 
[Settings] 

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Header: 
 3dtVersion N.N (major.minor) 
 TextureLib S (filename) 
 NumEntities N 
 NumModels N 
 NumGroups N 
  
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Brushlist: 
 Brushlist N (number of brushes) 
 [N Brush entries] 
  
Brush: 
 Brush S (texture name or brush name) 
 Flags N (bitflags integer, in decimal form) 
 ModelId N 
 GroupId N 
 HullSize F 
 Type N (enum for brush type, 1 = multi, 2 = leaf, 4 = csg) 
 [either [Brushlist] if Type was multi, or [Facelist] if Type was leaf] 

Facelist: 
 BrushFaces N (number of faces) 
 [N Face entries] 
  
Face: 
 NumPoints N 
 Flags N (another bitfield in decimal form) 
 Light N 
 MipMapBias F 
 Translucency F 
 Reflectivity F 
 [N (from NumPoints) Vec3d entries] 
 TexInfo Rotate N Shift N N Scale F F Name S 
      (rotation in degrees, value pairs are X,Y or U,V) 
 LightScale F F (X,Y) 
 [Transform] 
 Pos F F F (X,Y,Z) 
  
Vec3d: 
 Vec3d F F F (X,Y,Z) 
  
Transform: 
 Transform F F F F F F F F F F F F 
      (that's 12 F's, making AX AY AZ BX BY BZ CX CY CZ TX TY TZ) 

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Entities: 
 Class CEntList 
 EntCount N 
 CurEnt N 
 [N (from EntCount) Entity entries] 
  
Entity: 
 CEntity 
 eStyle N (0 = point entity, 1 = brush entity) 
 eOrigin F F F N (X,Y,Z,trash) 
 eFlags N 
 eGroup N 
 ePairCount N 
 [N Key entries] 
 End CEntity 
  
Key: 
 Key S Value S (first S is key name, second S is full value in text form) 
      (example: Key Origin Value "128 -1272 804") 

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Models: 
 [N (from header NumModels) Model entries] 
  
Model: 
 Model S (name of model) 
 ModelId N 
 CurrentKeyTime F 
 [Transform] 
 Motion B 
 [Motion] 
  
Motion: 
 MOTN X.X (should be 0.F0) 
 NameID 
 MaintainNames B 
 PathCount N 
 NameChecksum N 
 Events B 
 [if N != 0, Events entry] 
 NameArray B 
 [if N != 0, StrBlock entry] 
 PathArray B 
 [N Path entries] 
  
Events: (this wasn't in the sample file, so it might be wrong) 
 TKEV X.X (0.F0 again) 
 DataSize N 
 TimeKeys N 
 [N copies of the next 2 lines] 
 F N  (Time, ?) 
 S  (some event string) 

StrBlock: 
 SBLK X.X (0.F0 again) 
 Strings N 
 [N lines of string data] 
  
Path: 
 PATH X.X (0.F2, earlier versions are different) 
 Rotation N N (flag, interpolation type) 
 [if flag != 0, QKFrame entry] 
 Translation N N (flag, interpolation type) 
 [if flag != 0, VKFrame entry] 
  
QKFrame: 
 Keys N N N B (NumElements, InterpolationType, Compression, Looping) 
      (enum QK_InterpolationType: LINEAR = 0, SLERP = 1, SQUAD = 2) 
 [if Compression != 0, compression info here] 
 [N (NumElements) QKFrameElement entries] 
  
QKFrameElement: (this is different if Compression != 0) 
 F F F F F  (time, W, X, Y, Z) 
  
VKFrame: 
 Keys N N N B (just like QKFrame) 
      (enum VK_InterpolationType: LINEAR = 0, HERMITE = 1, HERMITE_ZERO_DERIV = 2) 
 [if Compression != 0, compression info here] 
 [N (NumElements) VKFrameElement entries] 
  
VKFrameElement: (this is different if Compression != 0) 
 F F F F  (time, X, Y, Z) 
  
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Groups: 
 [N (from header NumGroups) Group entries] 

Group: 
 Group S (name) 
 GroupId N 
 Visible B 
 Locked B 
 Color F F F (R, G, B) 

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Sky: 
 Sky 
 [6 times of the following 1 line] 
 B S (Apply, texname) 
 Axis F F F (normalized rotation axis) 
 Speed F (rotation speed) 
 Scale F (texture scale) 

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 
Settings: (this is mostly useless outside of GEdit) 
 [CompileInfo] 
 ShowGroups B 
 [ViewSettings] 
 [GridInfo] 
 BspRebuild N 
 [ViewInfo] 
 [BrushTemplates] 
 TemplatePos F F F (X,Y,Z) 
 DrawScale F 
 LightmapScale F

Also I found the source of the MilkShape3D 3DT exporter: http://www.genesis3d.com/~wog/tools/ms3 ... terSrc.rar
Here is some .3dt files: http://www.comunidad-e3d.com/descargas/ ... jetsWK.zip