High-end Professional 3d application

DtD · Post by **DtD** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:20 pm

The problem with C# is not only that it will be slower, but it will be harder to expand. Especially if you are using a 3d libary like it seems you intend to do.

How about instead take blender and completly redo its UI? I'm gonna agree with the other people, why reinvent the wheel?

==C++==
Faster
Industry Standard
The majority of 3d libaries will be using it
Can be multiplatform

==C#==
Slower
Not that commonly used/Not as developed
No popular 3d libaries for it afaik
Bound to .NET, which si bound to Windows.

~DtD

Katsankat · Post by **Katsankat** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:11 am

Both are portable, but C++ produces native code. I've heard of programmers forcing to install a large framework to run C# apps outside windows (which is not a sign of a good development plan). Mono.

Maya, Softimage XSI, 3ds Max, LightWave, etc... were not build with PHP via accelerator bindings anyway.

If I was asked to join a Formula1 race, I'd take a car at least as fast as others ... Probably harder to learn but the learning curve is more interesting. Life is a learning experience.

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:46 pm

Mono, while great, is not on a 1:1 ratio with .NET. It is lagging behind and it is likely it will continue to do so. Thus, for portability, it should never be considered as an equivalence.

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:08 am

And to make a liar out of me...
http://www.betanews.com/article/Mono_22 ... 1232551276

For my defense, it's fresh off the press, so...

BlindSide · Post by **BlindSide** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:58 am

Dorth wrote:And to make a liar out of me...
http://www.betanews.com/article/Mono_22 ... 1232551276

For my defense, it's fresh off the press, so...

No, not really

It's great news though, I was waiting patiently for it to be implemented.

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:21 pm

Yeah but saying you will do something and seeing it done are 2 things. Right OpenGL? Indeed DirectX 10? How about you center kernel of linux? I don't know what you're talking about, Windows Vista. Sure you don't, Duke Nukem Forever. Well, this is going Phantom Entertainment.

full.metal.coder · Post by **full.metal.coder** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:12 pm

BlindSide wrote:
Dorth wrote:And to make a liar out of me...
http://www.betanews.com/article/Mono_22 ... 1232551276

For my defense, it's fresh off the press, so...
No, not really

It's great news though, I was waiting patiently for it to be implemented.

Such a joke! No really, this is a good news for C# developpers but the graph lacks credibility...
An objective comparision would also include the C++ program compiled with SIMD enabled, which is always turned off because by default, most compilers stick to the basic x86 instruction set, or at best i686.
I'd wagger a proper build of the C++ app (with all instructions sets for the target machine enabled, including but not limited to SIMD) would outperform the SIMD-enabled C# program by an order of magnitude, and probably even more if it made use of libraries optimized for such instruction sets (as the C# SIMD lib certainly is...) like Eigen or Intel MKL to name a few...