How would i go about starting a mmo

Vbitz · Post by **Vbitz** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:31 am

What is the best direction for MMO development? I want to make a runescape classic private server similar to http://www.rsclegacy.com. I will need an admin scripting engine, could use a cross platform server too. Any help?

Dorth · Post by **Dorth** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:03 am

The very best thing I can offer you is this:
http://mm.soldat.pl/?p=40
There is absolutely no sarcasm or irony or belittling involved. It's just a cruel fact. If you still want to attempt to make one after reading the whole article, then your next best guess is google. Start from something pretty much complete and alter it as you go.

BlindSide · Post by **BlindSide** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:24 am

That's a very good article Dorth, I remember reading it back in the day. MM has some very practical yet philosophical advice.

I think to sum it up in one sentence is "If you were ready to make a 3D MMORPG, you wouldn't be asking here".

Mel · Post by **Mel** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:51 am

Dorth has pointed you in a really good direction, if you can read it with an open mind. Second. Get a MMO engine which is free.. If there aren't any, then, my suggestion would be to get a free game engine... if such things ever exist...

Irrlicht is only a rendering engine, You can make a game engine with it. Good luck! and invite us if you get to somethin XD

sudi · Post by **sudi** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:21 pm

BlindSide wrote:"If you were ready to make a 3D MMORPG, you wouldn't be asking here".

I think we should add that to the FAQ...made my day

Vbitz · Post by **Vbitz** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:10 pm

good ideas, i have already implamented the latest version of irrnet and am using visial c++ express, currently my code is a cross between 2 examples to give scene files simple colision detection. i have made a simple map in irredit, it is only a landscape but sutable for testing the codeing. i also have a good understanding of database servers, bacic client server communacations and on that note i have read much better articales coming from devlopers not programmers

wITTus · Post by **wITTus** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:38 am

Sometimes I think that I should have made a MOD. The work involved in all this game programming stuff is really overwhelming. For educational purposes, however, I can only recommend it. But if someone wants to start programming the actual game, a modification of an existing game would probably the better choice...

Frank Dodd · Post by **Frank Dodd** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:32 am

While all MMO's are complex beasts, not every MMO has to be the World of Warcraft, the scale of WOW still staggers me, the thousands of 3D assets could take one man a lifetime to create. But the are many MMO games out there whos style and scale are certainly achievable: Runescape, Penguin Club, Travians, Puzzle Pirates and of course no list would be complete without Planetarion

That is not to belittle the scale and complexity of these MMO's either of course, although I'm convinced that the media and software challenge would be within the grasp of a small team driven by a damn good idea!

So in answer to the original post, what I think is a prod in the right direction is, as with all good independent projects, realistic achievable scale and project ideas.

Yoran · Post by **Yoran** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:57 am

Sudi wrote:
BlindSide wrote:"If you were ready to make a 3D MMORPG, you wouldn't be asking here".
I think we should add that to the FAQ...made my day

I second that

B@z · Post by **B@z** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:13 am

well i think, there is no problem with making mmo.
everyone say that "you cant do it" and "you will fail it" and so on, but what then?
if you dont try, you wont know how will it work
and so, if you fail, you learned something new. completing a game isnt everything i think.

actually im making mmo too (oh well not mmo, just mo, or what do ya call it.. im just planning for around 100 person), and maybe it will be a fail, but its fun to make it, and i learn a lot of things by making, so whats the problem?

i had an mo project before too, i used raknet, but didn't like it so much xD
http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=28682
check out this topic

Ulf · Post by **Ulf** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:17 am

Frank Dodd wrote: While all MMO's are complex beasts, not every MMO has to be the World of Warcraft, the scale of WOW still staggers me, the thousands of 3D assets could take one man a lifetime to create. But the are many MMO games out there whos style and scale are certainly achievable: Runescape, Penguin Club, Travians, Puzzle Pirates and of course no list would be complete without Planetarion

Yeah right!
What? Runescape is a small or easy game to make? You are kidding yourself!

Yeah, Penguin Club. But Penguin Club doesn't even scroll or anything. It's just one room scenes with a few dozen characters on the screen.

Frank Dodd wrote: That is not to belittle the scale and complexity of these MMO's either of course, although I'm convinced that the media and software challenge would be within the grasp of a small team driven by a damn good idea!

You are great at convincing yourself.
Well what did you mean? Because it is belittling.

A damn good idea! IS ACTUALLY ( f****** I wanted to swear!) NOTHING!
I can think of thousands of good ideas about topics that I know nothing of. But I can still think of good ideas as to what I want it to do. You have to actually get it to do it though!!!!

The article Dorth gave is right.

This guy makes a good point too, about talking and showing off concepts. I'd listen to him and steer away from the urge to tell the whole world how your game is going to be the greatest ever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hMYF2CRFRo

wildrj · Post by **wildrj** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:40 am

I agree strongly with the stay away approach. Most of those who venture into trying to make a mmo stop programming all together. Those who do survive learn that they have to start small and move on up. Try it like this.. Get a simple game idea maybe idk a fps..

Make it a fun single player experience.. from there start maybe looking into a networking lib.. Learn about clients and severs. then attempt to implement a basic 1v1 over the internet. After that continue to add more players. If all you have is a mix of two examples.. you arn't going to get far in terms of mmo. What most arn't mentioning is the design structure your going to need. Well structured code of all things is needed.

Also lets be honest here for anyone who has done networking its a BI*CH!

Ion Dune · Post by **Ion Dune** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:12 am

I'm currently working on an MMORPG project. I also cry myself to sleep each night.

The choice is yours.

BlindSide · Post by **BlindSide** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:04 am

Sigh, sadly the original poster still only has 3 posts, and probably gave up and left programming altogether like wildrj implied.

Let this be a lesson, kids.

MasterM · Post by **MasterM** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:07 pm

Let this be a lesson, kids.

LMAO, ok dad...ill learn from it