DirectX 12 Ever?

[Dreadstew]

Will there ever be DirectX 12 support? Honestly DirectX9 is way more than enough for me. I've tried learning how to do DirectX 12, Have a nice book by Frank Luna. But it is too much for me. Other engines like Unreal are not as straightforward to use as Irrlicht and they get in my way. I love Irrlichts design and hope someday It will have all the most modern features. I just came off of a crushing defeat trying to use Unreal. Their networking model is insanely silly. I can use winsock better and achieve nutty performance compared to unreal, which lagged with 1 client connected lul. I can spawn thousands of mobs each triggering messages sent over network get hundreds of frames/sec on my server lol.

[CuteAlien]

I hope we will get that one day. Or whatever driver is current by the time we get to it...

[hendu]

With the GL driver, you can use advanced functionality right away, even on older Windows.

[AReichl]

I don't want to reheat an old discussion, but i would go "all in" with ONLY OpenGL and everything around it ( Vulkan, SPIR-V [ openCL, GLSL ] ).
I know it's against the principle of Irrlicht, but maintaining different drivers is insane for such a small team.
Let's make a final version 1.9 ( and 1.9.1, ... ) and with 2.x we make a leap towards something new.
Then fewer people can really CONCENTRATE on features. Now it's virtually impossible to find subtle bugs like shadows not working in one demo
with DX9 but working with OpenGL and the other way around with another demo.

[devsh]

There's always IrrlichtBAW for advanced OpenGL

[AReichl]

Would like to try, but cannot compile it ( Windows; Visual Studio; MinGW ).

[devsh]

Project should work for Windows 64bit Visual Studio MSVC... I'm completely at a loss as to why would someone compile on windows with MinGW

[CuteAlien]

Some resons for using MinGW:
- People don't want to work with proprietary tools
- Test if it compiles with g++ on Windows
- MinGW uses less disk-space (and especially doesn't need to install stuff on c: like VS always does, my precious SSD always weeps after each VS install)
- Users might need a library in the project which doesn't work with VS
- My person reason usually is: When developing cross-platform then using MinGW is simply easier as you don't have to work with 2 compilers

[devsh]

I can't understand reasons for mixing MinGW with VisualStudio

I can understand reasons for MinGW alone, I've used it on windows before

[MartinVee]

Visual Studio is as good an IDE as any.

In fact, we're doing exactly this here.

[CuteAlien]

@devsh: Ah right, uncommon combination :-)

[devsh]

Can you try msvc first?

We could possibly resurrect the codeblocks project for Windows...

[devsh]

Hope this helps

https://github.com/buildaworldnet/Irrli ... he-Library

[AReichl]

> I'm completely at a loss as to why would someone compile on windows with MinGW
Earning my money with writing portable programs.
And MinGW is closer to standard C++ ( C++11,14,17,...).
And i like Codeblocks ( because of the WxWidgets designer ) and Eclipse ( i am using
Cevelop, which is the better C++ Eclipse ) more.
Just a personal thing.
After i get it to compile with Visual Studio i will try MinGW and report back.

[Mel]

On this, I say if there was someone skilled enough to write and maintain a DX12 driver, go ahead. If not, well, i don't know enough DX12 myself... And I still have my doubts about Irrlicht design being able to support, without major, breaking API, changes, something like DX12. We don't even have fully functional DX11 code yet and that project seems that went on hiatus.