Visual C++ Users - 0.5 update

saigumi · Post by **saigumi** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:04 pm

To see all the changes in Intellisense(The pop-up helper thing):

After you swap out your Irrlicht 0.4.x libraries and includes with the 0.5 ones:

1. Close Visual C++ for your project.
2. Remove the *.ncb file of your project.

The NCB will regenerate the next time you open your project with the changes.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:07 pm

If someone uses something like Ctrl+Space or Ctrl+Shift+Space then they should know this

Miwa · Post by **Miwa** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 7:35 pm

And if you aren't using Visual Assist, you should RUN (don't walk) to www.wholetomato.com and get it.

I can't live without it. (It's not free, so I guess if you're not a pro, this message doesn't apply)

saigumi · Post by **saigumi** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:28 pm

I am trying out VA, but trying harder to not become hooked on.

It is sweet, but the pricetag is a little high for me. It's 2/3 the price of Visual C++.

C++ Standard = $120
VA = $80

I'm trying to see if it makes me $80 more effiecient. (Which most likely the answer will be yes.

Miwa · Post by **Miwa** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:06 pm

bwahahah... you're doomed.

Being able to hover over something and see it's type, or parameters, and the go button will quickly make you an addict.

I love not having to dig thru header files to see what #defines really are and stuff.

keless · Post by **keless** » Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:39 pm

um.. VS.NET already does those last few things you mentioned (though VA certainly adds other features)

Miwa · Post by **Miwa** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:58 am

Yeah, I use VS.NET 2003, but even with the improvements 2003 added, VA is so much more useful.

Auto-completion is another feature that I am so used to that I mess up when I don't have it. VA does a good job of guessing what you mean after typing 2 chars, so I'm used to typing 2 chars, then return, 2 more, return, etc. I get frustrated now when I have to type out a whole class or variable name.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:03 pm

yes, I agree, VA is good.

But don't tell that VS is MUCH worse - you just have to know how to set it up with your own color scheme and so on.
As about defines then VA shows them in tooltip and if they are long enough (which is very common case) it's not very useful... BTW, in VS you just need to press F12 or Ctrl+F12 to get everything you need - so DON'T browse those includes!

If you are a "good" guy (like saigumi) and like to pay for everything you use then I wouldn't recommend to buy VA for 80$ for sure - it's a lot of money - first sell the first copy of your game

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:12 pm

one more thing...

Niko, it's not a big problem to set up compiler and linker options in main.cpp file in examples/tutorials. So this way you can avoid all those questions about "I have a lot of errors during my compilation in VC60", etc... I mean if you link your library with #pragma comment(lib, "...") then you can set up linker options like #pragma comment(linker, "..."), optimization with #prama optimize("...", on/off), etc...