What IDE and Compiler do you use? and why?

hybrid · Post by **hybrid** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:09 am

No, you should just realize that other IDEs also have such techniques. dev-c++ startup takes several minztes just because it updates the database for these lookups. And Eclipse wouldn't have got where it is right now if it lacked this function.

Phunk · Post by **Phunk** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:44 am

ah, well I guess I should have looked better at those ide's then. I could not find it in dev-cpp(plus the fight I have sometimes while compiling with it). either way, thanks for this, cause now ill probably switch to code::block or something cause its a lot cheaper.(An big thanks for the great site you keep hybrid! hope niko will put all those patches you made to good use in v2! keep it up!)

Braneloc · Post by **Braneloc** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:06 am

vs2005, C#

(If for no other reason than full intellisense.)

RustyNail · Post by **RustyNail** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:01 am

Code::Blocks and Dev C++ seem iteresting, and I would really appreciate it if someone told me how to compile Quake 2 using something other than MSVS...

Destroy The Microsoft Monopoly!

I have alreay boycotted MS Office, now using OO

JPulham · Post by **JPulham** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:08 am

HERE HERE! Destroy MS... Bring On Open Source ( I refused to use DX until recently

)

RustyNail · Post by **RustyNail** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:13 pm

OpenGL, I my opinion, is better than DX with one point: It is much easier to use.... DX has too many things to initilize, too many to de-activate...
Anyway, my computer is almost completely Un-Micro$oft, except for Windows 2000, windows just has too many programs for it, and all of my games are for windows... So for now I am bound to the glitchy, horrid, bug infested, security-holed, Internet Explorer based Micro$oft Windows 2000.

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:20 pm

windows just has too many programs for it, and all of my games are for windows

Actually, if you ever switch to Linux, there is a free program called Wine that emulates most Windows programs. Then there is Cadega that emulates the most popular Windows games. And if you have M$ Office, then you can buy Crossover Office which does a very good job of running most versions of the M$ Office suite.

I was with Fedora Core 5 for about 3 days, but I couldn't get Photoshop CS2 to run in Wine, so I switched back to Windows for the time being. I desperately need PSCS2 to live.

And the Gimp just doesn't cut it.

JPulham · Post by **JPulham** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:24 pm

I would use linux but I don't have any CD's and cant burn the Debian ISO i got the other day AND until I get my new PC, I can't use DVD's... I use my dads and he's happy using Windows XP (he's over 50

)
Really I need Windows for Programming. Lets face it the market doesn't even know Linux even EXISTS! I have had many arguments with people at school who just can't understand "How can a computer run without windows?" and "Surely A big company can make better code then a bunch of programmers on the internet"

RustyNail · Post by **RustyNail** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:55 pm

Then there is a person called 'mom'... I want to install Fedora Core, and I have all of the cd's burned, but 'the mom' does not want to, she needs my computer for the internet, and does not want to learn Linux, her laptop is UT's and I fear that connecting it to our home connection will cause conflicts with her connection at work.... (Hope you got that...) Being in middle school and having one computer connected to the internet, with two internet users at home is tiresome... As for M$ Office, I already switched to Open Office - Lots Better... And a computer CAN run without Windows, How did they during the blissful days of Dos?
And even most websites are hosted on *NIX systems, it would be really funny if Microsoft.com was *NIX hosted...

Cypher543: Tell me about Wine, I would want to switch to Linux some day, "do nothing loop();'s" have gotten to me by now...

hybrid · Post by **hybrid** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:27 pm

If you have a windows pc and want to use linux you have two possibilities. Either introduce dual boot which lets you choose to boot either windows or linux from a boot menu, or use vmware to install linux on a virtual system.
I preferred the former for several years now, because virtual PCs were usually much slower. But I think it might have changed nowadays. I think you can even download pre-installed linux system images from vmware for direct use. If you choose the dual boot solution you can use the repartition system to create the necessary disk space. In both cases about 5 GB should be enough to get a productive system.
A third, though more restricted solution would be the live cds available for many linux systems. These boot linux from a cd without installation. However, this limits the possibilities to use the system. You'll need some space to store your data so you may want to create a linux partition sometimes. And then you might be better off with one of the major normal distributions.

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:33 pm

JPulham:

Really I need Windows for Programming

Most people don't program on Windows. Almost all of the quality programming tools (gcc, ld, etc) were created for Linux. It's just more flexible.

RustyNail:
Wine is a Linux app that you run from the terminal like this:

Code: Select all

wine whatever.exe

whatever.exe is the Windows (95, 98, XP) program you wish to emulate. Wine has a ton of Windows DLLs built in, so most Windows apps run on it. Wine acts as a layer on top of Linux and handles windows system calls and things. It even has it's own GUI system which draws porgrams to look exactly like Windows 95 and 98 (it doesn't support XP styles officially, but I think there is a hack for it). It's a pretty neat little program... if only it would run PSCS2

Also, you can even choose a emulator mode. So if a program only runs on Windows 98, you can switch Wine over to Win 98 mode untily you are done using the program. Then switch back to XP mode for programs that only work on XP.

RustyNail · Post by **RustyNail** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:26 am

hybird: I already know which distribution I am going to use and everything, I am not a complete Linux n00b.... Fedora Core. though I am going to have to clear some room to Install Linux and my PC dual boot.
My only problem is going to be the Linux installation who, what, where, when, why, how?

cyhper543: thanks.

And also I am tired of seeing the blue screen of installation, this year alone I have re-installed Win2K 7-8 times.... Stupid Spyware...

hybrid · Post by **hybrid** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:42 am

RustyNail wrote:My only problem is going to be the Linux installation who, what, where, when, why, how?

With a good distribution you should just follow the dialogs and use the default everywhere you don't know what to use. I am using SuSE now for several years, so I cannot say anything on Fedora. But I guess that there is not too much of a difference such that it's most simple to install.
SuSE would even decide for the correct repartitioning, choose the correct gfx drivers etc. So if you don't succeed with Fedora you might give Suse 10.1 a try.

RustyNail · Post by **RustyNail** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:32 pm

I have installed Fedora Core before, but it is just confusing, especially the partitioning part, on which I know nothing...

And I have installed it on my old computer (233mhz, 64meg ram, 7gig drive) but it was WAYYYYYYY to slow

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:38 pm

Fedora Core 5 is simply awesome. I found the partitioning system to be much easier compared to Debian's. It took me 2 days to get the layout right on Debian (over 10 reinstalls). I finally got it done, but the thing ran too slow.

FC5 is a good choice for almost anyone. It runs almost all Redhat RPMs, which is a plus since most linux programs are distributed as RPMs. It's update program, Yum, is also very nice. It seemed faster than Apt-get, and it's frontend, Yumex, is very easy to understand.

It's also very easy to setup a dualboot system in FC5. I've seen a ton of guides around. But be warned... due to patent restrictions, you have to do a bit of digging to get your system to play MP3s and some types of videos (DivX, for example). Java was also a nightmare to install...