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free xbox sdk
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:19 am
by Evil Game Manic
i was surfing the net and came across a free and legal xbox sdk
it was able to compile the old doom game.
http://openxdk.sourceforge.net/
by the way just out of curosity,are xbox games programmed from directx then transfered over to the xbox

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 am
by cypher543
by the way just out of curosity,are xbox games programmed from directx then transfered over to the xbox
Yes. Xbox games run off of a modified DirectX engine. So you build them and then use a FTP program to transfer your game to the Xbox's HDD. I think you have to install a Mod chip to access the HDD, though.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:43 am
by bitplane
t0m_ @ openxdk forums wrote:
3d is more of a wish than a planned implementation, I'm afraid. No one's reverse engineered how to interface with the GPU, the result being only official XDK compiled XBEs have 3d acceleration.
so there is no legal directx support unless you bought the official xdk

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:55 am
by jam
With out buying the official sdk, you can't legally run a game on an Xbox\Xbox 360 anyways.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:15 am
by bitplane
depends where you live... here in the UK we're free from the DMCA and I think its legal so long as
1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS, ie) I patch it myself, or use a legal BIOS that contains no Microsoft code
2) I don't pirate Microsoft's XDK or any of their software (hence the need for OpenXDK)
In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:43 am
by jam
bitplane wrote:depends where you live... here in the UK we're free from the DMCA and I think its legal so long as
1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS, ie) I patch it myself, or use a legal BIOS that contains no Microsoft code
2) I don't pirate Microsoft's XDK or any of their software (hence the need for OpenXDK)
The EU Copyright Directive which makes it illegal to circumvent copy protection systems on hardware would make both 1 and 2 illegal. The only legal way I think you can mod the Xbox is to change out the entire motherboard of the Xbox and thus it would no longer be an Xbox.
In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box


Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:29 am
by bitplane
re: circumvention
eucd uk implementation wrote:296ZB. (1) A person commits an offence if he-- (a) makes for sale or hire, or (b) imports otherwise than for his private and domestic use, or (c) in the course of a business- <snip>, or (d) distributes otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the copyright owner
any device, product or component which is primarily designed, produced, or adapted for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of effective technological measures.
maybe selling a cromwell modchip in the uk would be an offense ('primarily' adapted to facilitate circumvention, sounds grey to me), but buying or importing one for home use shouldn't be. edit: unless there's something i missed in the software section
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:16 am
by JPulham
bitplane wrote:In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box

Or a visit from MS secret police telling you to renounce netscape and pledge aleagance to the allmight Bill Gates

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:17 pm
by cypher543
1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS
So actually... it's still illegal to use the OpenXDK where you live. Becuase in order for the xbox to allow FTP transfers to it's HDD, you must install a Modchip which contains hacked BIOS. That's what one of my friends had to do anyway. He's a Halo 2 modder (but he doesn't play on Xbox Live, so don't worry about reporting him to Bungie...) and has to use FTP in order to edit the Halo 2 map files.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:43 pm
by bitplane
cypher543 wrote:
So actually... it's still illegal to use the OpenXDK where you live. Becuase in order for the xbox to allow FTP transfers to it's HDD, you must install a Modchip which contains hacked BIOS.
no, first you don't *need* a hacked bios, you can boot to linux with a perfectly legal cromwell bios. owning a hacked bios isn't illegal. selling or distributing one is a copyright violation and an offence under the EUCD. however, if I copied microsoft's code (ok I dunno how) from my own console and patched it myself, then wrote it to a modchip, all for my own personal use - its perfectly legal.
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:24 pm
by jam
I would have to agree, as long as it is for personal use only. At least for now

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:34 am
by cypher543
no, first you don't *need* a hacked bios
I must have been mis-informed then. I read in a modding tutorial that you do need a hacked BIOS, otherwise the Xbox won't let you run a game from the HDD, which is what you have to do when modding a game like Halo 2 or something, since the Xbox doesn't have a DVD writer.