free xbox sdk

Evil Game Manic · Post by **Evil Game Manic** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:19 am

i was surfing the net and came across a free and legal xbox sdk

it was able to compile the old doom game.
http://openxdk.sourceforge.net/

by the way just out of curosity,are xbox games programmed from directx then transfered over to the xbox

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:47 am

by the way just out of curosity,are xbox games programmed from directx then transfered over to the xbox

Yes. Xbox games run off of a modified DirectX engine. So you build them and then use a FTP program to transfer your game to the Xbox's HDD. I think you have to install a Mod chip to access the HDD, though.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:43 am

t0m_ @ openxdk forums wrote: 3d is more of a wish than a planned implementation, I'm afraid. No one's reverse engineered how to interface with the GPU, the result being only official XDK compiled XBEs have 3d acceleration.

so there is no legal directx support unless you bought the official xdk

jam · Post by **jam** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:55 am

With out buying the official sdk, you can't legally run a game on an Xbox\Xbox 360 anyways.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:15 am

depends where you live... here in the UK we're free from the DMCA and I think its legal so long as
1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS, ie) I patch it myself, or use a legal BIOS that contains no Microsoft code
2) I don't pirate Microsoft's XDK or any of their software (hence the need for OpenXDK)
In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box

jam · Post by **jam** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:43 am

bitplane wrote:depends where you live... here in the UK we're free from the DMCA and I think its legal so long as
1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS, ie) I patch it myself, or use a legal BIOS that contains no Microsoft code
2) I don't pirate Microsoft's XDK or any of their software (hence the need for OpenXDK)

The EU Copyright Directive which makes it illegal to circumvent copy protection systems on hardware would make both 1 and 2 illegal. The only legal way I think you can mod the Xbox is to change out the entire motherboard of the Xbox and thus it would no longer be an Xbox.

In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:29 am

re: circumvention

eucd uk implementation wrote:296ZB. (1) A person commits an offence if he-- (a) makes for sale or hire, or (b) imports otherwise than for his private and domestic use, or (c) in the course of a business- <snip>, or (d) distributes otherwise than in the course of a business to such an extent as to affect prejudicially the copyright owner
any device, product or component which is primarily designed, produced, or adapted for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of effective technological measures.

maybe selling a cromwell modchip in the uk would be an offense ('primarily' adapted to facilitate circumvention, sounds grey to me), but buying or importing one for home use shouldn't be. edit: unless there's something i missed in the software section

JPulham · Post by **JPulham** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:16 am

bitplane wrote:In America it's probably a federal offense punishable by death to posess a security screwdriver capable of opening the box

Or a visit from MS secret police telling you to renounce netscape and pledge aleagance to the allmight Bill Gates

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:17 pm

1) I don't download/buy a hacked Microsoft BIOS

So actually... it's still illegal to use the OpenXDK where you live. Becuase in order for the xbox to allow FTP transfers to it's HDD, you must install a Modchip which contains hacked BIOS. That's what one of my friends had to do anyway. He's a Halo 2 modder (but he doesn't play on Xbox Live, so don't worry about reporting him to Bungie...) and has to use FTP in order to edit the Halo 2 map files.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:43 pm

cypher543 wrote: So actually... it's still illegal to use the OpenXDK where you live. Becuase in order for the xbox to allow FTP transfers to it's HDD, you must install a Modchip which contains hacked BIOS.

no, first you don't *need* a hacked bios, you can boot to linux with a perfectly legal cromwell bios. owning a hacked bios isn't illegal. selling or distributing one is a copyright violation and an offence under the EUCD. however, if I copied microsoft's code (ok I dunno how) from my own console and patched it myself, then wrote it to a modchip, all for my own personal use - its perfectly legal.

jam · Post by **jam** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:24 pm

I would have to agree, as long as it is for personal use only. At least for now

cypher543 · Post by **cypher543** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:34 am

no, first you don't *need* a hacked bios

I must have been mis-informed then. I read in a modding tutorial that you do need a hacked BIOS, otherwise the Xbox won't let you run a game from the HDD, which is what you have to do when modding a game like Halo 2 or something, since the Xbox doesn't have a DVD writer.