which engine ? ( irrlicht, ogre3d, delta3d)

leebojammin · Post by **leebojammin** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:49 pm

hi..

I am looking for opinion about which engine I should be using..i've seen yes, varous threads but non seem conclusive enough so I wanted to put my own question out...if im going to make a commercial quality game will irrlicht do it, or do I need ogre3d or say delta3d.org maybe ?

I am slightly sadened that there is no linux version ( I work as much IN linux as windows if not more ) or the visual editor, yet the 'stage' editor for delta3d.org works in linux. Is there plans for the visual editor to port to linux possibly ?

I also am going to need to have t errain that can handle caves/overhangs and wonder will irrlicht or its plugins allow this ?

I am sorry to ask again, but all engines have similar abilities , and ive having a tough time deciding...so before I get knee deep in api I wanted to ask these questions...

thx
leebojammin

stef_ · Post by **stef_** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:28 pm

> if im going to make a commercial quality game

really a commercial game?

Recording to me if it is a commercial game you should know your requirements.
Just look for the features of each one and then you can choose accordingly.

If it is not a commercial game and you are here for learning something,
I think irrlicht is a good choice.

bye!

Acki · Post by **Acki** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:48 pm

I think even for commercial games Irrlicht is a preatty good choice...
It's fast, easy to use, has good quality and it's totally free !!!
The main problem seems to be the quality of the graphic objects (meshes)...
If you don't have really good 3d artists it would be verry hard to create a game that will be bought...
Not talking about the complexity to create a really good game engine...

I'm also planing to develop a commercial game, sometime...
Well, I'm not allone, a friend of mine and me are professional software developers for industrys, so we have enough coding experiance...
And our choices will be Irrlicht, Newton, OpenAL, OpenSteer and maybe RakNet (beside some other not game related libs)...

But I'm also sure, this is not a question for this (beginner) forum, isn't it?

luckymutt · Post by **luckymutt** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:26 am

I also am going to need to have t errain that can handle caves/overhangs and wonder will irrlicht or its plugins allow this ?

Yup. Irrlicht will natively. It is described in the docs. A single level mesh can be indoor and outdoor...one of the nice things about Irrlicht.

If you don't have really good 3d artists it would be verry hard to create a game that will be bought...

That could be said that about *ANY* game engine.

Don't let the screenshots fool you. The models used are pretty basic. Irrlicht can handle a very large scene. How good you want it to look is up to you, not the engine.

leebojammin · Post by **leebojammin** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:31 am

luckymutt wrote:
I also am going to need to have t errain that can handle caves/overhangs and wonder will irrlicht or its plugins allow this ?
Yup. Irrlicht will natively. It is described in the docs. A single level mesh can be indoor and outdoor...one of the nice things about Irrlicht.

If you don't have really good 3d artists it would be verry hard to create a game that will be bought...
That could be said that about *ANY* game engine.

Don't let the screenshots fool you. The models used are pretty basic. Irrlicht can handle a very large scene. How good you want it to look is up to you, not the engine.

okay thx..I should have prob. read some docs before asking but its been a major long WEEK

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thats excellent news especially about the cave/overhangs part..I read that in descript but somehow missed that was what it was saying..

cheers

leebo

stodge · Post by **stodge** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:49 am

No linux version of what? All three SDKs you mention support Linux.

If this truly is a commercial game you're producing, and not someone thinking they can make and sell a successful game on their first attempt, then you are the only one that can decide which engine to use. You need to work out your requirements, your functional requirements, your target platforms, your hardware requirements and then experiement and investigate all SDKs you are interested in. We could say "go with Irrlicht", but you may not like the API and you may not like the OpenGL performance.

Only you can answer that question.

Acki · Post by **Acki** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:55 pm

luckymutt wrote:
I also am going to need to have t errain that can handle caves/overhangs and wonder will irrlicht or its plugins allow this ?
Yup. Irrlicht will natively. It is described in the docs. A single level mesh can be indoor and outdoor...one of the nice things about Irrlicht.

No, Irrlicht can't do this (AFAIK) !!!
Or how do you make a cave or an overhanging cliff just with he terrain scene node ???
You'll have to do this with meshes...

Baal Cadar · Post by **Baal Cadar** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:39 pm

I guess luckymutt didn't mean heightmap based terrain, but modelled terrain. (Not Oblivion style, but Gothic style so to say.

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And this is indeed possible. For instance with the octree scene node. Though you will have to do lots of tweaking to make this a doable approach in a big world.

Caves/overhangs can also be models put onto a heightmap-based terrain. In the case of a cave though, you have to use a portal or something, if you want it to be seemless. But portals have already been implemented by some 3rd party. So this is doable.