how to make that kind of toon shader?

cr33 · Post by **cr33** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:29 pm

Would it be possible to keep this kind of 'look' in 3d?

Specifically, i mean the shading and pronounced contour.

I know about toon shaders, now what should be done to keep such 'low resolution'

effect ?

Because, if the game would just run at say 640x480 with toon shading, it wouldn't look much like this, would it?

Certainly on big LCD's everything would be blurry and unclear... so there should be some post-effect that would 'pixelize' high resolution image, i suppose... or maybe there is other way to 'stretch' the image...

also, i know it's all sprites, but even then shading are somewhat 'scattered' (is it because of too few colors available?)

So, again, would it be possible to reproduce such look?

Squarefox2 · Post by **Squarefox2** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:12 pm

Hi,

I would like to know this too, cause I want to look a game like the original Warcraft: Orcs & Humans:

Greetings,
Squarefox

Valmond · Post by **Valmond** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:14 pm

IMO this is 'pixel art' not a cellshader/toonshader

shadowslair · Post by **shadowslair** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:46 pm

Using an ordinary toon shader and running your game at low resoution - 320x240, or 640x480 and you`ll get sth similar...

Acki · Post by **Acki** » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:58 pm

Valmond wrote:IMO this is 'pixel art' not a cellshader/toonshader

the 1st I'm not sure...
the 2nd I think so, too...

what he wants is something like XIII (at least I want to know, btw realy great game

)

cr33 · Post by **cr33** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:19 am

Valmond wrote:IMO this is 'pixel art' not a cellshader/toonshader

well, it is i suppose - what is your point? i'm asking about 3d

'how to make that kind of toon shader' i'm not saying this 2d game has any shaders in it.

Acki wrote:
Valmond wrote:IMO this is 'pixel art' not a cellshader/toonshader
the 1st I'm not sure...
the 2nd I think so, too...

what he wants is something like XIII (at least I want to know, btw realy great game )

well, yes!

exactly, kind of. so i'll just experiment with toon shaders and ow resolution i think
[also, that link doesn't work but i did a little search

]

Acki · Post by **Acki** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:52 am

cr33 wrote:
Acki wrote:what he wants is something like XIII (at least I want to know, btw realy great game )
[also, that link doesn't work but i did a little search ]

oops, pasted a wrong url for the link...

corrected it for those who don't know XIII !!!

Valmond · Post by **Valmond** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:55 pm

>well, it is i suppose - what is your point? i'm asking about 3d

Pixelart is hand crafted 2D images (both the first screenshot and Warcraft 1 is pixelart, I can't see the second image
but I spent enough days on Warcraft 1 to know

), you can't make a 3D mesh render like that.

So my point is, you can't do a shader making those screens from 3D.

What you can do is very nice effects with a cellshader but that is another story

Good luck anyway, cellshaders are cool.

bitplane · Post by **bitplane** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:24 pm

You can render your mesh to a texture, using a toon shader if you like, then display the texture in 2D at a rounded position to give the pixel effect.

If you render the entire screen to a small render target then you'll see it moving between the pixels. You need to keep the model aligned or the effect will break during movement. Also you'll want to skip frames of your animation to keep it roughly aligned to pixels.